I’ve been away from the Glibs for a few days, and on my return, I see that we’ve discussed news items of Great Import, like statues and who’s getting fired from the White House. It’s a wonderful combination of grim/serious and totally meaningless. So as long as we have “totally meaningless,” we should at least keep it interesting.
Now here’s a perfect example. What makes this story unusual is that she wasn’t a teacher.
“When asked to explain how she was helping him, the defendant had a hard time explaining, but stated she was helping him, ‘release his whatever.’”
Just so I’m not accused of letting my hetero biases for hot MILFs with dirty librarian glasses prejudice my story selections, let me speak in praise of the Teacher of the Year.
And I can’t go without bringing up a local angle. Sigh, I miss my earlier career in elementary school education.
Let’s break the pattern I started, in respect to this site’s Family Friendly certification. All those movies where Hitler gets cloned or his brain gets revivified, no one really took a different path, it was always Hitler, Hitler, Hitler. But the death of this woman makes me think of an interesting alternate screenplay possibility…
Finally, along that same theme, I’m sure this was a Seinfeld episode with Mr. Pitt and ink.
Gut shabbos, you delightful goyim!
Assistant Washtenaw County Prosecutor John Vella said Lajiness sent the victims photos of herself in the bathtub before she started meeting up with them for sex, according to MLive.
Find the loofa for extra credit.
Dammit, I wasn’t first!
Time zone win! Now wash my back.
Isn’t that what your geisha is for?
Is your geisha an orphan?
You wash your elderly relative’s back on Respect-for-the-Aged Day. Orphans have Reach-Around-for-the-Aged day. Not as popular, though.
I just hose my elderly relatives down.
Hey, so long as theys 13
What I don’t get is how exactly is she a “predator”? It sounds pretty clear to me that she set herself out as prey. It’s not like any of the kids going over there thought they were going over for milk and cookies. What she did may be wrong. It might even be right that it is illegal. But, “predator” sounds like an awfully inaccurate label.
Unless she has a dick.
“Release his whatever”
Chakra?
I mean, come on! Make some effort! It’s like she’s not even trying!
At the risk of being prejudiss, she dun look like the type needa try too hard at nothin
Don’t you mean she dun look like the type needa try too hard at
nothinnuttin’.An Inconvenient Truth.
Let’s break the pattern I started, in respect to this site’s Family Friendly certification
I was away for a few days. Somebody redpill me on this Family Friendly meme.
Follow the link from the Family Friendly logo — a website has given us its seal of approval. Given the presence of SugarFree and the STEVE SMITH references, it’s clear no one has taken time to really read through the content — we’re trying to learn them proper in our wicked ways and get an accurate rating.
Along the lines of the California Textbook Commission from the Feynman story.
That was a Great/Awful story, thanks for the find
I don’t know that one. Have a link?
http://www.textbookleague.org/103feyn.htm
Guenther said all of the alleged actions took place over a span of time in 2017 and most of them occurred on the school’s campus.
The mess hall?
And I’ve gotta say, OWMC, it’s like you made these links just for me.
I just go with what amuses me, and adult-on-youngster stories amuse me.
I’ll be in my bunk.
Jared Anderson was a decorated high school English teacher at Judson High School, near San Antonio, Texas.
Hey, wanna see my dangling participle?
Americans were polled about the violence in Charlottesville, and the answers are ugly
You’d think the media would have gotten hip to the fact that they are losing their ability to tightly control the narrative by now.
That’s probably why he used the term “alarmingly”.
You know, instead of referring to this group of snotnoggins as “the mainstream media” we should call them by their True Name: the Ministry of Information.
I’m alarmed that only 40% of people put the blame on both sides.
Did they poll what % of Americans are tired of hearing about it for more than a week nonstop? Of course not.
Only a neo-nazi libertarian racist would think that we shouldn’t have a national conversation about race and right wing violence
Maybe the media thinks they are getting their second wind thanks to YouTube’s demonitization blacklist and Facebook and Twitter’s wrongthink banning.
That and all those CEO’s who left Trump’s advisory councils.
Can someone fill me in on what an advisory council is and why I should care if some woke CEOs removed themselves from it?
It’s now disbanded and should have never existed in the first place.
…thanks to YouTube’s demonitization blacklist and Facebook and Twitter’s wrongthink banning.
Yeah, I think they might be a little surprised when actual elections come around. They’re setting up these venues as an echo chamber where no views other than their own can be seen. They’re stopping everyone who doesn’t see the world just like them from saying anything out of fear of the Twitter mob. But, it’s pretty clear that the whole world doesn’t agree with them. A lot of non-Nazis think these guys are assholes. And they’re shocked when poll results don’t tell them what their echo chamber demands everyone believe. I think they might want to have a sit-down with Tom Bradley.
Which fact is that? The one that says free speech, even repugnant speech, is a constitutional right? Or the fact that if you defend free speech you are a fucking racist who needs their head bashed in?
I find those poll results encouraging.
We’re getting dumber. What could possibly go wrong by stopping these people from speaking? *Humanity touches red hot stove for the 100th time*
I don’t think we’re getting dumber. I think they’re getting dumber.
When I sit and watch what’s going on, my first inclination is to compare it with Idiocracy. The thing is, though, I think Mike Judge might have misunderstood the phenomenon. It isn’t that, all of a sudden, there are more stupid people. The uneducated and “stupid” really don’t seem that much less intelligent than they’ve ever been. If anything, my observation is that they’re probably a little more intelligent and knowledgeable than in the past. Where the collapse has happened is on the upper end. The educated and intelligent are much dumber than they were in the not-too-distant past. From the educated classes, I’m seeing an absolute breakdown in the ability to think and to engage in any sort of logical analysis. Think of the educated class’s response to the recent Google memo. My theory is that we’ve pushed way too much of the population into college, where they don’t belong, such that the overeducated but not terribly bright not only drown out the intelligent, but actively mute it.
Even in the liberal arts reading the classics or even reading is no longer what is expected of cosmos they watch TV show like Mad Men now. Shakespeare is a dead white male so he isn’t relevant anymore.
Trying to make the middle and bottom third of the population as intelligent as the top third by putting them in classrooms together isn’t the way to go. Also, just a theory and I’m sure I’m not the first, but you used to have the smart guy in your neighborhood that knew how things worked because he reverse engineered them from the top to the bottom. He knew the principles involved all the way down. Now days, especially with the internet, people just go straight for the appeal to authority. Oh, you’re smarter than this guy? These are people that if you put them on a deserted island, couldn’t prove the earth is round, grow a tomato plant or give you a definition of “virtue”. But they sure are experts on how to run other people’s lives.
As I understand it, that was the thesis of The Bell Curve – that some people just don’t have what it takes to be a doctor, engineer, lawyer, or CEO, and it has been a proven waste of time and money to try and change that by dumbing down the entire classroom to accommodate students on the lower end of the intelligence spectrum. Instead, the authors advocated focusing school resources on the highest performing kids so that they could excel and reach their full potential as part of the “cognitive elite”.
I snagged a used copy off the bargain shelf at a local bookstore, but I haven’t read it yet. It’s next on the list as soon as I finish Human Action and bone up on statistics a little bit.
Good primer on the topic by Aydin.
It’s also the whole “the only way to be a functional human and provide for yourself and your family is debt financed higher education!!!!”
My old masseuse changed her rates, moving her out of my price range. She now charges 100 bucks an hour. She works about 20 hours a week. She currently has a table that she rents at a parlor, it costs her like 30 bucks an hour. So she keeps 70. 70*20*50= 70,000 dollars gross a year. She’s thinking about adding an addition to her house so she can work from home, but you gotta be careful with that in her line of work.
She’s really really nice. Really good at what she does. Her IQ is definitely below average, and she was a D student at a bad local high school. Yet she makes well over median income, because she has a marketable skill and is disciplined in keeping her customers happy.
Doesn’t always work though. My masseuse is a former marine, also works as an IT guy and teaches water aerobics. The guy hustles, but it is hard to start a business. He wants to be a full time masseuse,but isn’t there yet
The breakdown in the ability to think logically occurs when the people, in this case the educated and intelligent ones, perceive that logic and reason will lead them to violate their moral norms. And since issues like global warming, white guilt, and other social justice topics have entered the moral code, these educated people cannot deal with them.
It’s not stupidity, per se, but the creation of ideological ghettoes. You can still be an incredibly intelligent human being about, say, thermodynamics, but politically you chose to exile yourself in a bubble of likethink.
You can still be an incredibly intelligent human being about, say, thermodynamics, but politically you chose to exile yourself in a bubble of likethink.
It’s the cult of intelligence. We, as a culture, practically worship the IQ point. Smarter is correlated with better, richer, more moral, and a bunch of other good characteristics.
As somebody who got funneled through the “smart kids” path all the way into adulthood, I’ve been surrounded by the “best and brightest” all my life. Let me just say that the smartest people are just as flawed, prone to emoting, and subject to ideological bias and rationalization as the next guy. In general, what puts them above their peers is their ability to memorize. However, the “smart kids” path certainly teaches a sense of moral superiority.
The cult of intelligence has conflated IQ with wisdom, when those things are very different from one another. Folks with high IQ are told that they are wise, and it goes to their heads.
yessir – the smartest guy I know is a political idiot. It’s like his logical brain disappears once you say the word Libertarian or Republican. And then it’s off to the talking points races.
They’ve built ideological ghettoes.
“Trump ducked the question. This is how he described the violence in Charlottesville: “You had a group on one side that was bad, and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent.” Nearly nine in 10 Republicans agrees with the president, according to the poll. Democrats and Independents disagree at rates of 83% and 59%, respectively.”
So 83% of Democrats are either insane or illiterate? White-supremacists are bad, and anitfa are very violent. How the fuck is that the least bit controversial?
Either it’s partisan effect, cognitive dissonance, or only light coverage of what antifa is and has been doing recently. None of the choices are mutually exclusive.
It could also have to do with how the questions were worded.
“Who’s worse, a Nazi or these other guys?”
“Uh, damn. The Nazi?”
Pollster: did you watch video of what unfolded?
Respondent: no.
P: who was responsible, Nazis or counter-protesters?
R: um, the Nazis I’d imagine.
P: thank you for your time.
Or perhaps the reporting those people listen to. As Scott Simon just said on NPR, (paraphrase) ‘….the white supremacist rally that ended in a violent terrorist attack on counter protestors that took the life of one young woman.’
Antifa stormed the beaches at Normandy.
Do you even history, bro?
It would be easier for them to control if their narrative resembled reality. Most people can sense when someone is not arguing in good faith.
“I believe in non-violent methods of struggle as most effective in the long run for building up successful working class power. Where they cannot be followed or where they are not even permitted by the ruling class, obviously only violent tactics remain.” – Roger Nash Baldwin, cofounder AC
Quote thanks to l0b0t.
Then there is this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion
And this: http://www.commonsenseevaluation.com/2017/08/16/antifa-flag-comes-directly-from-the-german-communist-party-in-1932/#sthash.xdxeQQ5o.dpbs
I have already speculated that the left may be giving up on political means to power because of their spectacular losses and see violence as the only route. They certainly aren’t going to give up on their quest for total power. All of this is being completely ignored by their fellow travelers i n the media.
People dont trust the media because they are actively trying to deceive.
Ugh.
“Roger Nash Baldwin, cofounder ACLU – Formed as legal council for the communist party of america.”
The numbers are ugly how? I’m just glad there’s some sanity in there.
These findings reflect the fact that, because of the nation’s partisan divide and fractured media, we no longer agree on basic facts.
Maybe because the media provided little or no evidence that the white nationalist assholes actually started the violence. Hell, the media didn’t even fucking claim the white nationalist assholes started the violence. They didn’t even talk about who started the violence. All they said was “White nationalists are icky. And, therefore, it’s all their fault.”.
Usually, when assessing who is to blame for violence, it’s usually really, really helpful to know who initiated the violence.
I think they’re implying in all of their coverage that words are violent and therefore it is beyond question that the sole fault of the violence lays at the feet of the neo-Nazis. Even if it was antifa that threw the first physical punches, which is what I’ve seen reported.
Funny, they don’t apply the same principle to Kim Jong Un’s threats of war and Trump’s rhetorical response of “fire and fury”. Kim isn’t the aggressor in that situation even though he’s testing weapons and at the same time claiming he is going to point and shoot them at the US.
The inconsistency is deliberate. Because everything is meant to undermine Trump. This is deep state bullshit. And the media are complicit because they love them some access. And trump being in power and gutting the deep state will seriously cut off that access.
It’s the same reason people who write the crime beat in local papers repeat the police statement as if it were fact and don’t look for conflicting stories from the accused or impartial witnesses. They don’t want to lose access.
I think they’re implying in all of their coverage that words are violent and therefore it is beyond question that the sole fault of the violence lays at the feet of the neo-Nazis.
You’re probably right. But, if that’s true, it just shows how hopelessly out of touch their echo chamber has rendered them. Outside of a relatively small circle jerk in academia, media, and government, nobody believes that words are violence.
What explains the parallel narratives of what happened in Charlottesville?
The video of Antifa cracking skulls explains it.
Perhaps more alarmingly,
onlyas many as 46% of all Americans put the blame on the white nationalists, while only four in 10 condemn both sides equally.In this universe, at least, that seems like a more appropriate set of pearls to clutch.
For decades she could be seen walking through campus to her anatomy class carrying a flowered hat box containing a preserved human brain
The cut twice, measure once milliner.
Night must fall.
Night Must Fall
I was thinking the Robert Montgomery movie. Or the Albert Finney remake.
What can I say? I just know a useless number of songs.
Well if we are lightening up – Babysitting grandchildren today, tomorrow start on this: https://paulsellers.com/2012/06/making-the-workbench-7/
You can watch him build it from start to finish here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru2ZiNs_Wek
In between I will start pecking on a bullet casting article for another Kevin.
God, I hate people who can make that look so easy.
Check out this motherfucker.
Definitely a bucket list project for me.
What I find more amazing are the people who can build things like that without using modern technology.
Looks like a lot of overkill.
Building stuff is really not difficult. Just looks like it. I build a fair amount of furniture out of driftwood. And anyone with minimal knowhow and a little trial and error could do even the more complex stuff.
I get it. I’ve done a ton of carpentry. But the creativity and detail is still really impressive.
I don’t know, fine detail work doesn’t come easily to me. I build stuff all day long for stuff around the farm. I can make it sturdy and last, but squaring corners perfectly and fine trim still trips me up.
That is kinda where I am. I have done a lot of carpentry but finer woodworking not so much. I have built most of the furniture in my house – tables and cabinets – but when I go look at them after watching Sellers videos I see lots of mistakes I made. Now I am trying to learn to do it more properly.
Here is one for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ypbvcxb-8M
My thing has been finish carpentry. I want to have a dedicated shop eventually so I can spend a little more time and learn to do some of the more esoteric stuff.
Here is one for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ypbvcxb-8M
Awesome, thanks.
Yeah, I mean it’s one thing to put together serviceable stuff- most people could learn to do that pretty well. But a friend’s uncle makes a living creating replicas of historical furniture (like Louis XV, XVI, etc.) for museums, etc. His shop is attached to his house, and he’s showed me around- there’s a pretty high degree of craftsmanship involved.
Building stuff is really not difficult.
Everything I’ve ever made looks like it was built by a fat, bald, nearsighted lawyer with shaky hands.
For some reason.
“Check out this motherfucker”
Yeah, I considered that design but going with Sellers instead. Of course Sellers makes it look easy. He has had 50 years of practice.
When I looked at that it linked me to another bench project where somebody built one out of 44 2x6s he had reclaimed from a demolition. He laminated most of the 2x6s for the bench top. Didn’t look pretty but strong as hell. Also hard to move at 880 lbs.
Probably closer to what I would build if I ever built a workbench.
You know what makes a great bench? A solid core flat door for the top.
1″ Baltic Birch plywood. The stuff is bonded with resin under pressure, so it gets into all the pores (unfortunate side effect, yellow glue doesn’t work so well on it). Comes in 5’x5′ sheets, which is kind of an odd size for people used to working with 4’x8′ materials.
Also, for some reason, I get this catalog. Which I love to page through. They sell stuff by nth-generation Japanese master craftsman. I mean, $4,000 is an assload of money to spend on a set of chisels, buts its probably what they are worth.
Me thinks someone is not being truthful. IANALT
I thought everybody already knew it was a scam?
*shrugs, continues to look down nose at people who spend good money on bottled tap-water*
I only buy my water in fancy glass bottles.
*sneers at lesser folk*
Yeah, what kind of people but bottled water, anyway?
*suppresses pent up rage at wife for her insistence on buying bottled water when our tap water tastes just fine*
“buy”, not “but”
The well that supplies my tap water is in the middle of 200 acres of cows. The distribution system is iron pipe that is over 40 years old. We regularly get boil advisories. I drink bottled reverse osmosis filtered water.
Now that is a damn good reason to buy bottled water.
In Indonesia we would boil and then filter. I can’t imagine doing that in addition to all the filtration systems now would be that much more of a headache compared to buying it bottled.
Depends where you are. Where I live now the tap water tastes fine. But where I used to live it tasted way too bad to drink, though I’m sure it was perfectly safe. But since just about everyone there bought water they had these big dispensers at the grocery store and you’d just bring refillable containers and get water for some ridiculously low price, like 25 cents a gallon or something.
We have a whole-house filter that cleans everything down to just about reverse osmosis levels (the back-flushing kills me on the water bills, though).
Mrs. Dean still buys bottled freakin’ water. R C keeps his piehole shut about it, though.
This reminds me of a needless controversy last year involving a bottled water plant moving their operations from CA to Phoenix. The controversy was Phoenix is a desert, therefore they are bottling and seling what little water is in the area. Which brought up two immediate thoughts:
– The cost of operations is so high in CA they are willing to mover…to Phoenix, where there is apparently no local source of their product.
– Have you people never been to CA? The southern half is also a friggin desert.
I remember that. I also remember wondering how many people carping about it in Phoenix have swimming pools and grass lawns.
“Assistant Washtenaw County Prosecutor John Vella said Lajiness sent the victims photos of herself in the bathtub before she started meeting up with them for sex, according to MLive.”
I see no proof of any such photos. Prove it.
You’re as bad as the prosecutor who wanted to take photos of the naked teen not sexting.
My thoughts exactly. How are we to believe she is guilty with out proof? She might be a hairy SHE SMITH from the neck down.
Rule 34 implies that’s a fetish for somebody.
victims
He keeps using that word. I do not think it means what he thinks it means.
What explains the parallel narratives of what happened in Charlottesville?
Maybe, just maybe, the American viewing audience recognizes the outlandish falsehoods routinely put forth by the so-called news media for what they are, and have learned to assume everything they hear is wrong (or an outright lie).
So what you are saying is that the major media outlets are like the punchable annoying lower IQ nerd, that the nerd clique hates, who acts like he is smarter than everyone else but usually has the wrong answer.
Yeah! I hate THAT guy!
*looks in mirror, hangs head in shame*
I…I have no idea what you mean!
*sweats, tugs at collar*
That never ever happens! *eyes dart nervously*
You know what hurt the narrative in Charlottesville as much as anything? The glowing coverage the media gave to the statue-topplers in Durham the next day. They were fawning all over those people as some sort of heroes in light of what happened a day earlier. They were heroes! Doing the work that the evil Trumpnazihitler fans were trying to keep them from doing.
Too bad the cameras caught their website info and some of their pro-commie words on tape. All it took was a few people with computers to expose their vile beliefs that are on par with those of the scumbags they fought in C-ville.
This is an incident that this is clearly a predator.
She should have been hanging out in that bar downtown by the courthouse, where all the lawyers and judges congregate, like a well adjusted board housewife.
Yes, “board”.
Be cause, you know- WOOD.
I’m surprised nobody’s trying to connect the solar eclipse to global warming.
Didn’t the Vikings come out of their villages to yell at the moon until it moved then claim victory? Sounds about the same.
That’s the only victory the Vikings will have.
ZING!
/Ghost of Bud Grant
BUD IS STILL ALIVE, DAMMIT!
But yeah, the Vikings are fucked. They will finish below .500
Did somebody mention the Vikings?
Wow.
Definitely an upgrade for our O-line, though.
Be patient, they will.
I will give it a try: All the melted ice has altered both the rotation and orbit of the earth by changing the distribution of weight on the planet putting the moon out of its normal orbit and….
*passes out from aneurism*
Close enough?
That is satire right?
Yes.
Yes, he’s mocking deniers! if I read my prog correctly.
Aaah, yes, that makes sense now. I get it. The eclipse is not going to happen because people are making money off of selling glasses, and that is exactly the same as Al Gore setting up a carbon offset marketplace as well as making millions off of “the sky is falling” films.
It’s pretty weak satire.
“They have reportedly known about this eclipse for years, just by virtue of some sort of complex math.
This seems extremely unlikely. I can’t even find these eclipse calculations on their website to check them for myself.
Meanwhile the scientists tell us we can’t look at it without special glasses because “looking directly at the sun is unsafe.”
That is, of course, unless we wear glasses that are on a list issued by these very same scientists. Meanwhile, corporations like Amazon are profiting from the sale of these eclipse glasses. Is anyone asking how many of these astronomers also, conveniently, belong to Amazon Prime?”
Some sort of complex math. We all know that math is a tool of the patriarchy. They totally left that out.
Ill be glad when this eclipse is over. Thousands of people flocking here, screwing up traffic and all that just so they can stare at the sun for 2 minutes.
all that just so they can stare at the
sunfor 2 minutes.I heard on the radio that they are estimating I-25 N this weekend could be like 6 Bronco games getting out at once and all heading to WY. I-25 is stupid on a slow traffic day.
Not bad for the Atlantic, very old school
In the future, eclipses will be more frequent and severe.
That’s funny.
I LOLed
Me too.
“If current eclipse trends continue…”
Meanwhile in Canada?
http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/politicians-contributors-distance-themselves-as-rebel-medias-meltdown-continues/wcm/23597cc0-4c97-4e64-bea4-999bd870f1f1
Oh my! ::sad trombone::
Also in Canada.
Looks more fun than golf, actually.
Looks rather uncomfortable. Although I’m thinking that’s not his first beer.
I give this 7 days until someone is seriously hurt
I give it fore.
You aced that comment!
This whole subthread is out of bounds.
Wiebring that up now?
It is pretty rough when I have to google a pun
Got a complaint, call your D.A.
Stop, I’m going to have a stroke.
You putz.
Some people will get really teed off if this doesn’t end soon
For all of you…
*narrows gaze*
It’s a wedge issue, some people are just chipper abut it while other will pitch a fit.
There’s only one fair way to settle this.
Y’all are all terrible now matter how you slice it.
I don’t want to lob accusations, but whoever started this deserves to get shanked.
I would club you but I can’t figure out the yardage.
This is rough.
“Here hold my beer, and, uh, poor it in my mouth. Ya, that’s it!!”
They don’t even have on collared shirts.
What’s with you people? This is golf, not a rock concert.
A root canal looks more fun than golf.
Another failed Golfer I see
/runs off course
I’m surprised nobody’s trying to connect the solar eclipse to global warming.
Just wait ’til it rains, and all the science lovers miss out on their once in a lifetime <experience.
Explanations will abound.
Neil Tyson did. Science predicts the eclipse which is certain therefore the models for climate change are correct
As I understand it, Aristotle’s geocentric model of the solar system had predictive value.
Saw that on a friend’s Derpbook feed. My response was something like:
Except that astronomers can accurately predict the occurrence of eclipses. Unlike “climate change”, where astronomers (e.g., NDT) are batting pretty much .000.
Followed by crickets.
But, the events of the past week have me leaning toward not discussing politics at all, anywhere, except on here.
Fuckin’ A did I learn that the hard way the last two days. Me: “I support free speech for racists not because I’m defending racists, but because I’m defending my right to free speech.” Full on shitstorm on my FB wall as relatives came out to call me a racist sympathizer. I had to block two nieces and a nephew for out of control personal attacks. My favorite? “You need to STFU. You don’t even live in America!”. TBH, it was upsetting.
“You dont get to decide if I can speak or not or what I can say. Also, when is your birthday? I was thinking of getting you a large package of disappointment.”
Y’know, there’s an easy solution to that problem.
It’s the only link I have to many of the relatives I have to those in the states. Suppose I could just send emails to each one individually or maybe invite them here. That would be fun.
You have to consider your sanity.
I didn’t think it was possible for him to be more disingenuous than I already knew.
Fame is a helluva drug.
Crime rate in Colorado increases much faster than rest of the country
Other states have legalized – so maybe, just maybe, there’s more to it than the devil weed…
Too many Californians coming in…
Med card, Why go there?
/Cali survivor
It also said 1 in 3 homicides occur in Denver. I bet 1.8 of the other homicides occur elsewhere on the front range and communities surrounding Denver.
I blame Longmont and Niwot for the balance.
Alex Jones sighting in Seattle
Bastard. Just for the others out there, have your ad blocker running before clicking that.
Ha… Sorry, I didn’t notice. I had adblocker running.
There are computers that don’t have Adblocker set by default?
ENB told me to turn it off. I already told her to adblockyomama.
Don’t you mean adblockinsaneyomama?
Now why would she say that…?
Is that before or after you asked her to make you a sandwich?
Brave browser, FTW.
Also seems to get around all of those annoying turn off your ad blocker pop ups.
Sadly no Tampermonkey/Oracle support for Glibs yet.
IT’S GOING TO TURN THE FRIGGIN’ FROGS GAY!!
It looks like the coffee goblin hosts a fake wrestling show:
https://twitter.com/drmistercody/status/898672162591997953
Go trump go!
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/08/19/as-predicted-washington-swamp-worried-trump-wont-spend-enough-money/
“Far-right activists were met by a huge crowd of anti-fascist protesters as they marched in Barcelona one day after a terror attack killed 13 people in the city. Members of the extreme Falange group congregated on Las Ramblas boulevard this afternoon before being met by hundreds of counter-demonstrators waving flags and banners. Tensions were so high that armed riot police were called in to separate the groups as violence broke out.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4803858/Far-right-activists-clash-anti-facists-Barcelona.html
The first picture of a rainbow flag is a nice touch. I’m sure it’s from the “anti-Muslim” protesters, right?
Never miss an opportunity for a good riot, I guess.
Why are nazis considered right wing?
Nazis === racist aryan progressives
Wandered over to nazi party webpage yesterday and their Economic and environmental platform reads like a prog wet dream
Yea that really annoys me too
Ssshhhh…….those are the facts we aren’t supposed talk about you damn racist.
Yes, but libertarians are almost Nazis because they want to let the Nazis have the freedom to speak.
Nazi is just a contraction of National Socialist. They were never right wing. That whole canard is absurd.
Notice they never chant, “Down with National Socialists!”.
I dont think its a brevity thing
More seriously, Nazis are considered right wing because the commies hate them. The commies and the Nazis have always competed for the same followers. And anything not commie is by definition right wing.
Um, because it’s impossible for those on the left to have an enemy that’s also on the left.
Not that there aren’t violent extremists in the right. I’m sure there are. Somewhere. Maybe. Do the anti-immigrant groups count even though they never go out and commit violence?
You cishetero shitlord! The words of conservatives and libertarians ARE violence.
They’re two sides of the same authoritarian coin. It would be nice if the pols and the press were smart (or honest) enough to frame it that way instead of that left/right bullshit.
You’re all talking about state national socialists. Everyone knows that wasn’t real national socialism.
“If only we could get the right Hitler in charge…”
Because they are evil splitters that don’t want the state to own the means of production?
That water doesn’t really come from Poland. And those cookies? No Girl Scouts. NONE! There oughtta be a law.
That was much the same defense as I gave at my parole hearing. “I thought I was supposed to eat Girl Scout Nookies! Here’s my doctor’s note showing that the excessive earwax buildup may have impaired my hearing.”
Question for you lawyering types out there: I need to round up an estate lawyer. Should I expect the local (Ohio) Bar Association referral service to actually recommend a good lawyer, or are they just randomly handing out names off of a list of all licensed lawyers? If it’s that second thing, what’s a better resource for identifying a competent lawyer?
I met my estate attorney through my accountant. She turned out to be awesome.
Is she hot?
Actually, yes!
I hire all my lawyers based on the quality of their TV ads.
Me too!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqnHtGgVAUE
Depends on how much effort you want to put into it. Go down to the courthouse and look up some successions.
Lawyers dont randomly recommend each other, they feed each other. Find the most satisfied customers.
Alternate idea: Look through the successions and find out which lawyers the lawyers use.
Thanks for that.
Bar Associations will just hand out names.
Check with who your bank uses, accountant uses, etc.
We had a simple criterion for choosing our estate attorney: I wanted a lawyer who had actually killed people. We got one.
Dang.
I have to get by just telling people they might want to think twice about the fact that I actually have my own morgue.
PSA:
https://twitter.com/MsBlaireWhite/status/898745212989722624
Letters to the Local Rag
Then again, maybe brick and mortar stores are parasites that suck the life out of food trucks. That idiot needs to eat a dick.
Sold from a food truck.
I hope it was properly inspected first.
I thought you were the dick inspector.:-p
Holy shit…where do you live? That sounds like some sort of Twilight Zone episode.
The other half are colonial reenactors if that gives you a hint.
But yes, there are a lot of silverhairs from New Jersey and college students.
In that case, the answer to the posed question…
…would be “yes.” I know I would need a drink or two to calm my nerves for the inevitable road rage of having to deal with both those groups on the roadways.
The old folks keep to the surface streets for the most part. But this was a topic of discussion in the letters section recently.
Williamsburg VA?
Ding Ding!
The first letter is from Tulpa.
It does sound like him, doesn’t it?
WE MUST HAVE ORDER
I thought we were all Tulpa.
Half the city’s population are college students, most of the other half seniors, probably on lots of meds.
Sounds like Tucson.
No libertarian moment there!
I’m obviously downselecting the letters, but the unsigned letter to the paper that always gets published unless there’s something offensive definitely invites the cranks to share their opinions.
My personal favorites are the ones that bitch and complain and end it with a God Bless or Thank You.
city to control permits and to insure they meet the same requirements required by a brick-and-mortar restaurant to sell food to the public.
They already do you dick. They also have to collect and pay taxes. The cost of starting a food truck is quite high. If you are not a fully enclosed free standing commercial kitchen meeting all the requirements of a commercial kitchen in a brick and mortar restaurant, you have to be associated with a restaurant. Food trucks are regulated more than brick and mortar.
The food trucks where I work are universally (1) expensive and (2) associated with a brick-and-mortar restaurant elsewhere – they thrive because there are still very few brick-and-mortar restaurants on the waterfront due to it being a former industrial wasteland.
OTOH, the food carts you see all over NYC sell mostly junk that the brick-and-mortars don’t sell.
Some places, thanks to lobbing efforts of the brick and mortar restaurants, have successfully passed legislation that you can’t even open a truck unless you are part of a brick and mortar. Competition is unfair. I remember reading about that some months ago.
lobbing, lobbying, same same.
But not buttered rolls.
You and your buttered rolls.
Rules vary, but food trucks get inspected most places just like restaurants. And, its somewhat unusual for a food truck to be totally self-sufficient (as in, all prep, storage, cooking, etc. is done on the truck). That means they need to use a licensed commercial kitchen for anything they can’t do on the truck.
They ain’t cheap, but they’re a lot less expensive to set up, and a whole shitload less expensive to operate, than a brick and mortar restaurant.
My SIL, who’s in the restaurant business makes essentially the same arguments about food trucks. BUT, she loves Uber.
Yes, it’s horrible when establishments sell alcoholic beverages. That demon rum leads men to abuse their wives and children and consort with fallen women. We need to remove this scourge by banning alcohol altogether. I don’t think anyone has ever tried this novel approach before.
Ok. Did some more editing last night and put this version together. I have a back-up “clean” version uploaded and available just in case. I’m hoping the next few “obscure” flicks will be less of a hassle, but who knows.
I had it uploaded to my backup channel all night with no issues, then I get an email as soon as I publish it on my primary channel(?). It is giving me some good practice editing and tweaking – forced into getting a little more comfortable with the software a little faster than I expected, but still time intensive.
Either way – Sidney Lumet’s “Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead” is a modern classic and deserves to be watched by everyone. TW: Marisa Tomei nudity (not in my review), PSH heroin use (cosplay?), etc.
Marisa Tomei definitely triggers me.
You and Joe Pesci.
Florida Man’s New York vacation?
http://nypost.com/2017/08/16/naked-man-squirts-hose-at-cops-while-on-school-roof/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark
I wish someone had started a meme that only Nazis have their retinas burned out if they look directly at the eclipse, then baited antifa members to prove they weren’t Nazis.
It’s not too late. Activate the Weaponized Autism Max!
Usually, when assessing who is to blame for violence, it’s usually really, really helpful to know who initiated the violence.
That’s absurd. Anything the transgender bunnyhugging anti-fascist liberationist heroes do is by definition self defense and completely justified.
Someone should make a list of everything that qualifies as violence.
Not speaking, speaking, being white, taking videos, holding candles, holding signs, voting for Trump…what else?
Mansplaining
Having a Southern accent.
Damn!
You spoke that with two syllables, right?
Not watching CNN
Leap frogging Stinky.
Owning a gun and putting holes in paper with it.
Somewhone should make a list of everything that qulifies as violence.
Watching porn. Eating red meat. Bottled water. Leather goods. Self-check out. Referring to crossfit as a cult. Listening to rap music. Not listening to rap music. Keeping a rotweiller in a kennel. Not keeping a rotweiller in a kennel. Drinking milk. Acknowledging, correctly, that Beyonce is NOT a genius. Making tacos, especially if you screw them up. Owning a five point wrench. Using a five point wrench (screw you City of Phoenix, I WANT MY MOTHERFUCKING WRENCH BACK). Pointing out Colin Kaepernick is not that good a quarterback, neither is Tim Tebow…and neither have jobs in th NFL. Owning a car old enough to be exempt from the clean air act. Explaining Elon Musk’s business model. Explaining Elon Musk’s “good intentions” do not justify his business model.
I’m sure there’s more.
So you’re saying it’s duck season?
https://media.giphy.com/media/auTtY81uVmGFa/giphy.gif
Food trucks are parasites that suck the life out of brick-and-mortar restaurants.
*nods slowly*
Cnn and wapo trying justify violence of antifa last night.
And trump is the scumbag?
It is really hard to take them seriously
They’re like Jesus would have been if he’d gone around stabbing sinners. Notice the framing of the story: They’re violent for peace, man.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/18/us/unmasking-antifa-anti-fascists-hard-left/index.html
“Antifa leaders admit they’re willing to physically attack anyone who employs violence against them or who condones racism — as long as force is used in the name of eradicating hatred.”
How do they determine who condones racism and who doesn’t? I didn’t know the left supported vigilante justice
Anyone they don’t like “condones racism”.
Exactly
Moral vigilantism.
Can force be used against those liberals who hate conservatives?
“Antifa activists often don’t hesitate to destroy property, which many see as the incarnation of unfair wealth distribution.
“Violence against windows — there’s no such thing as violence against windows,” a masked Antifa member in Union Square told CNN. “Windows don’t have — they’re not persons. And even when they are persons, the people we fight back against, they are evil. They are the living embodiment, they are the second coming of Hitler.””
Totally sticking up for people’s rights!
Wonder what he thinks of Kristallnacht.
More seriously, a lot of my family friends are pretty far-left activists, and while they’re generally a little too bourgeois to actually engage in antifa tactics (like seriously, in their Christmas emails to friends one couple said of participating in one of the G-7 demos, I think, that they regretted being unable to continue on with the black-bloc people when they went off to smash stuff, but couldn’t because they had obligations to family, etc.- by which they meant their grown children, I guess- but were cheering the brave vanguard on) they are pretty heavily involved with them, help run the support networks, etc.
I’ve heard this “violence against property” line a lot of times from them. The thing is, I’m pretty sure that if you were to go their homes and set them on fire they wouldn’t be very sanguine about it. The couple above, in particular, have put a lot of years into making their home and property a pretty idyllic setting, and a great deal of their identity is tied up in it. The old adage holds: “Who? Whom?”
I wonder if that masked dipshit would say if someone smashed the windows of a mosque and claimed it was OK because “those people are the second coming of Hitler”.
They’re violent for peace, man.
Keep being reminded of this scene.
I’m not saying Trump is Hitler, but…
The vehicle for realizing Hitler’s vision, according to Jackson, was “an organized Sturmabteilung” — Stormtroopers — whose slogan was that “possession of the streets is the key to power in the state.”
It’s easy to see that today’s neo-Nazis share a similar aspiration. And gun laws that allow white supremacists to carry assault rifles and march like platoons on patrol — activity that would’ve been unimaginable in Weimar — make the threat in a certain sense more tangible.
But of course Charlottesville isn’t Berlin and the U.S. isn’t Weimar. The question then is what authority the liberal state ought to have to regulate or even suppress Nazis who want to take over, but don’t have a realistic chance of doing so.
Remind me again- which mob was blocking the roads in Charlottesville?
And, of course, the number of people who died when those “storm troopers” began firing indiscriminately into the crowd was utterly incredible.
But I’m still going to draw comparisons because that gets me attention and praise.
Antifa actually negotiated safe passage with these guys. They’re just pissed they didn’t get their teeth kicked in but they can make that happen the next time if they try hard enough.
Gosh, I didn’t know that the open carry laws only applied to white nationalists.
I wonder if they’re aware of open carry demonstrations by black protesters. It’s funny – it’s almost like anyone can walk around with guns and have no issues as long as they’re being safe, peaceful, and disciplined.
I re-read Kat Timpf’s article on NR. And it seems she’s either confused, being dishonest, or just won’t walk back her initial very hot take.
“TRUMP: Excuse me, excuse me. (inaudible) themselves (inaudible) and you have some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group — excuse me, excuse me — I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”
If you read the rest of the transcript. It’s obvious that Trump is talking about the event on Saturday, not the tiki torch torch thing on Friday night.
Yet, Timpf wrote, “I thought, after all, that my statement was pretty reasonable: Nazis are bad; there are no “good people” at a white-supremacist rally — a “white supremacist” rally, and not a “save our history” rally, by the way, was exactly what it was; its billing openly touted white-supremacist leader Richard Spencer as a headliner and called on demonstrators to “end Jewish influence in America”
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/450588/katherine-timpf-hate-target-defends-free-speech
Aw honey, just smile, crinkle your nose, and shut the fuck up.
She deserves much better than that.
Law and order [progressivism.
The takeaway for our moment is that, as was true in 1949, neither Nazis nor anti-fascists are able to challenge the government for control. Yet in order to make sure that it remains so, the liberal state needs to police seriously and intensively, maintaining order and preventing violence.
Free speech must therefore be protected — including chants about owning the streets. But even the ACLU today recognizes the danger of its representing hate groups that seek to march carrying firearms.
There must be no mistake that the streets are owned by the entire public and protected by police who work on behalf of the liberal state that represents the people. That’s the way to avoid a situation where radicals can actually contribute to destabilization.
And this is why we need to eradicate civilian firearms ownership. Those tax cattle might take it into their heads to get uppity.
I didn’t think guns were even a part in Charlottesville
Why did the mayor tell the cops not to get involved unless given an order to do so?
The left is completely unhinged and delusional
Or hate filled, envy consumed and utterly predictable. Potato, Potahto.
*triggered*
How much further into the derp will they slide? That’s my question.
related – remember Occupy Wallstreet – back when every other article on ToS was about this “important movement”?
It’s still not as bad as it was for weeks after Sandy Hook.
I just had an important movement.
Which I’m sure will contribute more to society.
go on… /scat fetishists of the world
They don’t want anyone focussing on the fact that after 6 months of organizing the white supremacists could only muster enough people for a protest that could fit inside a single Applebee’s. But they’re “Trump’s” army ready to round up all the non white male cislords for a final solution. Such a serious threat.
The mendacity of the left is stunning. The assholes should just come out and say what they mean.
“We want to take over using mob violence. Who needs Brownshirts, we have Blackshirts. Now, give up your guns so we can kick the shit out of you and burn your town to the ground.”
They only seem to show up in proggie enclaves. I dont see the chickenshit commies showing up in Monroe, La or Crockett, Tx anytime soon.
On the Bus with an SJW & a Neo-Nazi
Some limeys are funny.
That’s perfect. That could be a series really, considering how much they have in common.
Take care of it, JB. It’s a great concept.
Intersectionality Inc.
That was pretty good.
I wish more people would read that.
That was great.
Awesome. NPR should be required to read that on air at the top of every hour
Brilliant
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2017/08/18/nyt-defense-in-palin-defamation-suit-we-were-pressed-for-time-n2370024?amp=true
Slam dunk.
Especially considering that the legal standard for actual malice in a defamation case is publication of a statement either 1) knowing it was false; or 2) exercising reckless disregard for the truth.
Consider, also, that even if the individuals responsible can credibly claim that they had no actual knowledge it was false and did not act with reckless disregard because they don’t read their own newspaper (pretty much what they are saying under oath), that doesn’t really help NYT, Inc. much, because knowledge can be attributed to an organization. Its usually more of a negligence standard – the organization “should have” known X because it was common knowledge, known to its employees, etc. But in this case, the organization actually made the statement, itself, that falsifies the defamatory publication.
In a rational world with a functional judicial system, this case would be a slam dunk for Palin.
Serious question,
I have been getting”suggestions” on the side bar of You tube, for some truly Nazi orgs and WAYYYY far off into White nationalism.
Why? Now? I don’t have any Google History that would lead to them suggesting these, I usually get Russian car crash videos and Razorfist updates,
I’m A Secret Nazi? Since when?
Your either a Marxist or a Nazi or a Nihilist.
You’re
Grammar Nazi!
I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it’s an ethos.
The Razorfist stuff is doing it most likely.
This is why I stay signed out of YouTube, and clear the memory of my device every few weeks.
That’s not why I clear my memory.
Because you have porn there that’s too disturbing even for the Japanese?
clear the memory of my device
Well, that’s one way to describe getting blackout drunk.
Send us a picture of your haircut. We cant tell properly without that.
like my Avatar? White(hair) Power?
Have you been clicking on HM’s links?
Clicking on HM’s links leads to eclectic weirdness in ‘up next’ box that can only be comprehended using the Necronomicon.
You been linking BP’s cartoons?
Holy crap, I think, we’ve constructed a new “you know who else…”
As if this shit wasn’t getting insane *enough*
All you really need here is the headline.
Economically and intellectually they want everyone impoverished.
They are Marxists, we knew that from the beginning.
No no they are non violent and fighting for rights and freedom
See counter protest to free speech in boston today!
Nonviolence, and their actions are oxymorons, and the people who believe them are actual morons .
No question
Actually, they want every but them economically impoverished — they want their dachas (spelling?).
Well the Blackshirts are going to get their dachas, just dont tell them that they will all be residing in a mass grave in the back yard of that dacha.
*resigns from human race*
“That will be fine. Just leave your belongings and accrued wealth on your way out. It will save us the trouble of taking it from you later when we win.”
/Antifa
“At the rally, according to the student newspaper the Daily Trojan, Saphia Jackson, co-director of the USC Black Student Assembly, asked students not to be quiet, and reminded that “white supremacy hits close to home” and referenced the name of the Trojans mascot.”
No, it doesn’t, if you have the time and energy to complain about something as obscure and insignificant as two horses having a similar name.
I just looked it up. Jefferson Davis’ horse was named Blackjack, so we need to ban playing cards.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_horses_of_the_American_Civil_War
And U… SOUTHERN C…
from the comments:
(holds up card)
National parks put a ban on bottled water to ease pollution. Trump just sided with the lobby that fought it.
WaPo has their panties in a bunch. Public Eneny Number One continues to dismantle the Ascended One’s legacy by permitting water, in BOTTLES!, to be sold in national parks. Evul KKKorporations, 10,983,602 – America, 0.
I also note with some amusement the continuing debasement of the American vernacular by substituting “pollution” for what was formerly known as “litter” or “trash”. Makes it sound more ominous.
*cries single, culturally-appropriated tear*
*edit fairy*
Appropriated from an Italian guy playing an American Indian, no less.
Ha! Perfect.
They are so butt hurt I love it. Why can’t they just do a 500 dollar fine for littering?
pssssh. everyone knows bans are the most effective deterrent, and never produce any foreseeable adverse consequences.
So a couple of times, post Burning Man, the wife and I have hit a National Park (Yosemite, Sequoia, Crater Lake). After a week plus of “Leave No Trace” camping we were constantly picking up trash in our glorious NPs – proving just how much we Americans appreciate them.
Traveler, USC’s mascot, comes under scrutiny for having a name similar to Robert E. Lee’s horse
“Doin’ right ain’t got no end.”
Love trumps hate!
What they really mean is….those who are full of hate === not submitting themselves fully to progs
Most of my family is from Mississippi and this past January when I visited, I asked them about how they felt about the Confederate flag. To me the flag is a novelty because being born and raised in the North but I was curious to see what a black Southerner had to say about it. Most of their responses was that they didn’t like the flag but at the same time had other important shit to deal with in their lives to muster up any anger. I think most black folks in the South with regards to the Confederate flag displays an irritated meh sort of attitude towards the flag.
The ones who are getting bent out of shape about this are do-gooder whites who has this paternalistic attitude towards black folks and blacks who gets off on making white people grovel and apologize for being white. And I always ask, if we burned the Confederate flag and toppled all the monuments and memorials for the Confederacy and their soldiers, would things get better in the black community?
No one ever gives me a straight answer when I ask that question.
Where is Tony, anyway…?
I remember when I lurked over at the other site, that guy said some racist shit.
If one is not sufficiently paternalistic, those child-like darkies will get into all sorts of mischief.
Some of them even get strange, conservative ideas in their heads – but we know how to set them straight.
“And I always ask, if we burned the Confederate flag and toppled all the monuments and memorials for the Confederacy and their soldiers, would things get better in the black community?”
Onwards and upwards comrade. The revolution can never be over.
They will just turn their outrage to something else no matter how tangentially related. They will also be busy eating their own. That’s why these types will always be the first ones rounded up and shot. The glorious revolution’s top men know that sooner or later they will be targets of the useful idiots outrage.
That’s why you never apologize to these morons and tell them to fuck off when they get in a tizzy. No matter how much you grovel and apologize, they will still show you some contempt. And it empowers them.
You can say what you want about Tina Fey and her politics but I gained some measure of respect for her when she basically told the SWJ’s to fuck off when they pissed and moaned about her show making fun of SWJ’s and their cries of cultural appropriation.
I don’t think the Confederate flag should be flown by any governmental agency, whether federal (well, that’s not going to happen anyway,) state, or local. And I have to admit that I think people who fly it, or put it on their trucks are kind of being dicks. Not saying they are Klansmen, or evil, or even racists. Just kind of being dicks, and people who are kind of being dicks is something you have to put up with, at least partially because just about no matter what you do someone else is going to think you’re kind of being a dick.
The Confederate monuments are kind of a different question, IMHO, and I’m of two minds about them. A lot of them were put up not that long ago by people who were not just kind of being dicks by putting them up, but erecting them as part of a program of being actively evil at a time when historical context was not a very good excuse. But there’s a difference, I think, between flying the Confederate flag and allowing a monument that has stood for decades to continue to stand.
And I don’t trust the motives of the people most vocally seeking to tear them down- I think that they do so as part of a program of being actively evil, one that is active now, as opposed to several decades ago, and that can’t help but color my response. I’d oppose putting up any new public monuments to the Confederacy (and actually I’d kind of prefer the government not put up monuments at all,) and I definitely understand why truly well-intentioned people might like to see some of the existing monuments go away, but I’m not that crazy about caving to pressure from people who are not, by my lights, at all well-intentioned.
Full disclosure: I’m a Yankee, with all of the privilege that implies, and as such probably have no standing to opine on issues touching on Southern identity.
And I have to admit that I think people who fly it, or put it on their trucks are kind of being dicks.
For a lot of Southerners, its basically their version of the Gadsden flag. A diffuse protest against the powers that be, that kind of thing.
Yeah, I’m aware of that. Which is why I say that I don’t think the people flying it are necessarily even racist.
I still think it an unfortunate choice. Slavery was a great evil, and while there was violence from “many sides” in the Civil War I think that, revisionism aside, the desire to preserve that institution was the most significant animating idea of the Confederacy. Symbols are potent, but they don’t carry nuance very well. You should choose the symbols you display wisely, IMHO.
I’d like to see some real racial reconciliation in this country (not the Maoist racial claptrap we’re seeing from the left these days,) and I don’t think flying a symbol that’s inextricably intertwined with slavery helps in that regard. I’ll defend the right of private citizens to do so, but I do think it kind of makes them dicks.
I’d like to see some real racial reconciliation in this country
That will never happen without a level of mutual tolerance that would easily encompass not getting all pantytwisted about the confederate battle flag. If people can’t get past that, they’ll never get past more substantive differences.
I still think it an unfortunate choice. Slavery was a great evil, and while there was violence from “many sides” in the Civil War I think that, revisionism aside, the desire to preserve that institution was the most significant animating idea of the Confederacy. Symbols are potent, but they don’t carry nuance very well. You should choose the symbols you display wisely, IMHO.
You’ll be hard pressed to find most people flying the the confederate flag who believe this. The most significant animating idea of the Confederacy was was whether USA was a collection of sovereign states (kind of like the EU) or under Federal rule. Slavery was the issue chosen for this battle to be forced over. There are plenty of debates about whether slavery could have been eradicated as quickly or even quicker through other means. I don’t know enough about the other ideas being proposed to offer an informed opinion on that. I do think most people joined the Confederacy to support their state, not slavery. Very very few of them owned slaves or ever would own slaves, why the fuck would they fight and die for that?
It’s a foreign concept today but back then, if someone asked where you are from, you would have answered I’m a Virginian first and an American second.
*Just wanted to clarify in case there’s any sort of ambiguity, my comment was over what the Confederate flag means to southerners. Virtually every single one would agree that slavery was a great evil with the exception of the KKK who struggled to reach 200 people at a national rally.
Well, when you can dismiss ample historical evidence to the contrary as revisionism, it makes your argument easier.
Not necessarily more correct, but easier.
” Slavery was the issue chosen for this battle to be forced over. ”
That’s significant isn’t it? I mean, I don’t think every white person bears the stain of slavery like the mark of Cain, or should be made to answer for it unto the seventh generation, but let’s at least admit that it was evil, and that support for that evil was the most significant factor in the Southern Rebellion.
Full disclosure: I’m a Yankee, with all of the privilege that implies, and as such probably have no standing to opine on issues touching on Southern identity.
What has been interesting to me about all of this statues-and-flags business (and yes, I know it doesn’t end at just statues and flags) is that it basically amounts to Northerners/carpetbaggers calling for the eradication of Southern identity and culture. Slavery was abolished 160 years ago, Jim Crow has been over for decades, and social progress and equality in the South are as good as they’ve ever been, and certainly no worse than in many parts of the North. Whatever evil symbolism the statues and flags allegedly embody is, in people’s day-to-day lives, irrelevant. They are just markers of identity and culture. They’re alien to me, as a Northerner, but so are markers of any number of other cultures; I don’t fly a Mexican flag or put up a statue of Athena in my front lawn, either. What happened to a sense of pluralism and multiculturalism? I feel like, when talking about most any other cultural identity, the same people who want the statues and flags torn down would want the symbols of a culture protected and cherished.
Well, yes, and that is what I find disquieting about the whole thing. I think people are generally tribal idiots whose favorite pastime is finding another tribe to put the boot to. Paradoxically, the better thing get, the worse this gets. I suppose I’m getting _really_ conservative in my old age, but I’m starting to sympathize with the old adage: “Idle hands are the Devil’s workshop.” The more leisure time we have the more we spend it figuring out how to divide ourselves into who and whom, and then whoming. I’m less hopeful about our automated future than I once was… it turns out there’s a very good reason to keep the orphans toiling in the mines sixteen hours a day. It keeps them out of trouble.
That said, while the Confederacy ended 160 years ago (if you say so- too lazy and drunk to do the math right now,) Jim Crow is pretty recent, as I count things. I moved to the States in 1976, when I was 5 or so, to D.C., which was pretty black at the time. My Mom, being the very well-intentioned and naive idiot she was, put me in a private school run by black revolutionaries, where I was almost the only white kid… it was interesting, to say the least. I suppose it is this sort of experience (and that’s just the beginning) that leads me to hold views that might seem, at first glance, alternately drawn from VDare and BLM, while repudiating both.
Black Americans are right, I think, to be pissed off. The Civil War might have ended 160 years ago, but the postbellum treatment of Blacks was brutal (and not in a fun Zardoz way,) and you don’t get over that sort of thing in a generation or two. The flip-side to that is that people have the right to live their lives without _every goddamned thing_ they do being about the historical injustices others suffered.
And the flip-flip-side is that the reasons I condemn things like slavery, Jim Crow, etc. are rooted in principle, so if you want me to keep condemning them you should probably continue to support those principles. I am not an absolutist when it comes to principle- context matters, and while I think freedom of association an important principle, it is one I think was not wrongly abrogated in the Civil Rights acts of the 60s. When Blacks had to have special travel guidebooks telling them where they could find a place to spend the night, especially given that it’s not like Blacks came to the US uninvited… I think there were conflicting principles here, but I also think it was a situation (one largely created by government) that simply could not be allowed to prevail.
But hard cases make bad law. It’s a small step from deciding that one principle should yield to another, in an extraordinary case, to deciding that the first must always yield to the other, even when the first is implicated to a much greater degree than the second.
if we burned the Confederate flag and toppled all the monuments and memorials for the Confederacy and their soldiers, would things get better in the black community?
Somebody is going to get minority-preferenced government contracts with piles of sweet Davis-Bacon money to sweep up all that broken glass. And then, we’ll need some socially conscious art to put on those empty pedestals.
But those who usually get the minority preferenced contracts are rich blacks and it never ever trickles (heh) down to the black community. Funny how that works.
To recast the famous Sowell line about foreign aid, “Racial preferences take from poor people in richer demographics and give to rich people in poorer demographics.”
Perfect example of affirmative action in….uh…..action.
Scene: High School. Seniors are opening their college letters.
Friend 1: GPA 3.7. Solid extra curriculars, athletics, clubs, etc. Black girl, daughter of a doctor and a laywer. Family net income well into the 400k range. Acceptances: literally everything she applied to. 100%, including multiple Ivies, Stanford, etc etc. Big time scholarship offers.
Friend 2: GPA 4.2. Class President, soccer captain, multiple clubs, etc etc. Son of Chinese immigrants. Off the boat, own a takeout place. Net income probably slightly over 60k. Acceptances: 50%, and not a single Ivy among them. Scholarship money not anywhere near what he wanted it to be.
He ended up going public and doing it fast, for a business degree. They’ve since opened up two more locations of the restaurant. She’s some kind of NGO parasite after spending 6 years fighting the system at a top 10 school that she got a full ride too, despite her parents being able to pay out of pocket.
Wanna guess what Friend 2’s favorite hat looks like?
Fucking hate hearing shit like that. Some of the biggest turds I’ve ever met was middle-upper class black people. In college, I used to argue with them all the time and they had no problem calling me an Uncle Tom. These assholes came from affluent suburbs but yet always put on this show of how society is oppressing them. And what was even worse, the whites fell for this shit and ate it all up.
The best part about these sort of assholes is that they never ever hang around the lower class blacks that they seem to love and even have some contempt for them.
They can all fuck themselves.
Eventually this isn’t going to matter much in the private sector, because continuing on this path is going to drive the market value of a degree from an Ivy into the ground. That’s not the case now, of course, and it will take a while for the market to adjust. It’s also complicated by the legacy admits, which I imagine will also continue. A large part of the value of a degree from Harvard or Yale is that you get socially connected to the legacy admits, who tend to be good to know.
In the public sector this matters a lot. When’s the last time we had a Supreme Court Justice who didn’t graduate from either Harvard or Yale’s law school? Given the supremacy we’ve granted the Judicial branch I’m not sure I think it too much of a stretch to say that the admissions boards of the law schools at Harvard and Yale determine the pool from which those who ultimately determine the law of the land are drawn from.
I finally watched Blade Runner last night. So I finally get what the fuss is about. A few thoughts:
– Its a noir film. Take away the flying cars, artificial people, DOS based computer systems, the usual philisophical musings that accompany sci-fi (i.e. what is human anyway?) and its a standard gumshoe tale.
– Daryl Hanah has no ass, and they did a great job of making her look like David Bowie, who incidentally also does not have an ass.
– In the 80s, the future looked like Hong Kong and Japan mashed together and squished into LA.
– Why did the put Sean Young in movies? I get it was low budget but attractive people existed in the 80s, right?
I liked the movie when it first came out but time has tempered my praise for it. The book is better – even with the normal Phillip K Dick gloom
Which version did you watch? I need to go through them again, but I kinda like the additional noir-ish take with the voice-over – even if HF sounds really bored. At the same time, the “subtle” clues about replicant-hood are a stupid idea to add 15+ years after the movie first came out.
The original version. I figured if I liked it enough Id watch the others,
This Man Searched for the Yeti for 60 Years—and Found It
An overpriced-cooler-cum-status-symbol-among-suburban-whites-who-have-no-idea-what-real-camping-is-like?
Pretty good op-ed.
The one response to that article is so brain numbingly stupid I am praying to allah it’s a troll.
Me too.
“So, there is ammunition for the easily molded mind to find a purpose in some variation of a (pardon me while I throw up in my mouth here) ‘White Pride’ movement.”
RACIST!!!!!!111!!!!!ONE11111ELEVEN!!!!
I remember as a kid traveling in the South – we’re talking late 70s, early 80s here. The whole Confederacy thing seemed a lot stronger back then. Of course it was probably just tourist kitsch and young imagination in overdrive.
But why are we re-fighting this particular war now?
1) Dylan Roof
2) the left is attempting – after the ZOMG Russia! attempt – to tie Trump to the alt-right, aka everyone right of Mao is racist, racist, racist
3) which gives the impression that everything is spinning out of control
???
4) Democratic President 2020!
Because only a (D) can keep a lid on their Stormtroopers and control the sprawling bureaucracy.
They are trying to refight this war now as a pretense for mob violence and because the whole TrumPutin canard failed. This will fail too. They aren’t going to get their glorious revolution. Eventually they are going to have to crawl back under their rock.
Brendan O’Neill gives zero fucks about cocktail parties
The difference in tone in the coverage of Charlottesville and in the coverage of Islamic terror is… striking enough that I think you’d have to be pretty far gone as an ideologue to fail to note it. That many people have failed to do so does not bode well.
To pull out a dusty trope, your chances of being run down by a white nationalist at a demonstration over the last ten years seem to be roughly one in 3 billion. I mean, they’re roughly comparable to the chances that you’ll decide to take off all your clothes, climb a crane, and fall to your death. I don’t lose any sleep worrying I might do that (though actually I think the chances of that happening to me are probably easily a hundred times as great as the chances I’ll be run down while marching with Antifa. Perhaps greater. But we all have our particular circumstances.)
Of course context matters, and there is greater import to the events in Charlottesville than there is to, say, someone being struck by lightning. I’d argue that, given the context, the actions of Antifa are more worrying than the actions of the driver in Charlottesville, in isolation, and that further they should not be looked at in isolation. But, I suppose, that’s just pants-shitting nonsense. The driver in Charlottesville is a terrifying harbinger of what’s to come, but Islamic terrorism is a matter of statistics, best compared with shark attacks, being struck by lightning, and winning the lottery.
I’d argue that, given the context, the actions of Antifa are more worrying than the actions of the driver in Charlottesville, in isolation, and that further they should not be looked at in isolation.
In fact, I think the more context you give antifa, the worse it looks. You take in a pattern, over months (and years?) of violence and vandalism, of intolerance for anything they view as even vaguely threatening (they regularly attack people for taping them on the public streets), and a pattern of collusion with government authorities in selected jurisdictions. I strongly suspect that anyone digging into the organization and funding of antifa (because it ain’t spontaneous) will find even more to be disturbed about.
The alt-right has nothing like any of that.
Yep- I might actually dislike neo-nazis a bit more than antifa, in a Platonic sense- not sure about that, cause they are awfully close in my personal “you suck” rankings. But when I look at the support Antifa has relative to neo-nazis I have to find the former far more threatening than the latter. Neo-nazis are scum, and almost everyone knows that, and agrees about it. Antifa has a great deal of support, and I’m sad to say that I pretty much grew up within a layer of the onion that supports them. I know how their support system works, from first-hand experience, and it extends pretty far into putatively mainstream institutions.
I know some of the faces behind the masks, and what a bunch of pussies they mostly are. The Vermont chapter of whatever Antifa is was partially started by a guy named Dave Van Deusen (link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Mountain_Anarchist_Collective) (we always called him “Van Deusen,” ’cause too many Daves,) who was renting a room from my best friend at the time. He was kind of intertwined with my social circle up there at the time, so I tolerated him, but…
I remember one year I went up for ReggaeFest (which was held less than a mile from my friend’s property that year) and Van Deusen wanted to wrestle me over my non-Antifa beliefs. So I kicked his ass, and we went back to sharing a bottle of whisky. But… I can be a mean drunk, and he had pissed me off, so I kept making him wrestle me all night, and eventually cracked a couple of his ribs.
My God did he whine about it the next day, to anyone who would listen, while fake limping around. I actually felt kind of bad, cause I did hurt him a little bit more than I meant to (whisky was a participant.) But I’m now much more like “Look son- start real shit, and shit is likely to get real. ” I think I’m the only person who ever taught Van Deusen that lesson, and I think he might have been better off if he’d been taught it earlier.
I honestly think Election Night was the big reveal, the Wizard of Oz Moment. Every other election result, the media was able to maintain the mask. They were able to spin Obama wins as “HISTORIC FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT THAT’S WHY WE’RE STAINING OUR SUIT PANTS AND OUR SEAT CUSHIONS, IT’S NOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH HIS LEFTISM”. They were prepared when Bush won, they were able to strike a neutral tone even though they were seething inside. But Trump winning genuinely surprised them. Since they were genuinely surprised, genuine emotions showed through, live on camera. Credibility is like virginity. You can’t get it back.
Picture Mark, the Moderate. He votes for President every four years, and he bases that vote on the three debates, and on his local paper’s editorial page. He watches CNN, because he knows Fox is right wing and MSNBC is leftwing, so he watches the moderate one. Mark the Moderate is 40. For 20 years, the family has met at his parents house for Thanksgiving. Every year, Uncle Rob the Republican and Aunt Dottie the Democrat fight like cats and dogs. Rob’s constantly talking about media bias, he thinks is the single biggest problem in politics. Rob thinks if the media was straight, if they were even handed, Republicans would win more. Dottie thinks that’s silly, she thinks the media is owned by big corporations, which are of course right wing. Mark is a Moderate, he doesn’t know what to think. Mark voted for Hillary, because all the news channels and the editorial page really think this Trump guy is nuts. Plus he’s not even an experienced politician. Mark’s voted for the winner in every election since 1996.
So Mark settles in on Election Night and tunes it to CNN. It’s early on, but all the experts agree it will be an early call this year. Clinton might even take a few red states, because she’s polling so far ahead. So Marks thinking he might get to bed early. But then FL goes Trump. Then NC. Then Ohio, and Ohio goes huge. That’s when Mark notices that these professional media types, people who can cover a war or a terrorist attack or a natural disaster without losing their composure, they’re all pale and wide eyed. They’re upset. It’s showing in their voices. In their words. Mark flips the channels. They’re all like that. MSNBC is of course upset, but so are the networks. The networks are supposed to be straight shooters, why are they so angry and upset that Trump is winning? All of a sudden Mark hears Uncle Rob in his mind “They’re not even handed, they’re not journalists at all. They’re Democrat operatives with bylines.” Mark stays up, and he watches Wisconsin go. Then Pennnsylvania. When they call PA, one of the panelists on CNN asks their expert “Is there any chance left for Hi- I mean, for Secretary Clinton?” Mark hears that, and he hears the tone. That plaintive, desperate tone. That tone of a partisan, watching their team lose, but trying to keep their veneer of neutrality.
Mark turns off the TV, and he goes to bed. He’s got work in the morning. But before he does, he texts his Uncle Rob.
Did Moderate Mark vote for Bush in 2000 after voting Clinton in 1996? Weird.
Remember, Gore kept Clinton at arm’s length because of the corruption and scandals of his presidency. There were supposedly voters who preferred to close the book on that White House and go with compassionate conservative who promised no nation building.
What do you mean weird? Presidents who win election win election because they’re winning the moderate, swing voters who read the paper and watch three debates every four years, and maybe have a couple issues they’re passionate about.
40% of the voters always vote Blue, 40% always vote Red, and 20% vote either way.
Although Clinton is a unique case because, despite the talking point of equal pulling, I always thought Perot pulled more Clinton haters than Clinton lovers. He was a net positive for the CLintons.
I assumed he wouldn’t flip from one party to the next – even as a “moderate” at the time.
Sure he would. He’s a swing voter. That’s what they do.
2004 “Well you know, there’s a war on, you don’t change horses in midstream, and the economys pretty good”
2008 “Well you know, McCains just kinda angry, the Republicans been in power a while, and you know it is time we elected a black President.”
Fine. I gotcha.
It’s always the same shit with the Left: groups that they don’t like (such as gun owners) are guilty of the crimes of someone who technically belonged to that group – just as guilty as if they had pulled the trigger themselves – but groups they DO like (such as Muslims) are completely innocent and anyone who says otherwise is a racist.
We’ll be arguing flags and statues when the mullahs nuke us
Carl Icahn, devil incarnate
In 1960, after studying philosophy at Princeton (where he wrote a thesis titled “The Problem of Formulating an Adequate Explication of the Empiricist Criterion of Meaning”) and a stint in medical school (he was a hypochondriac, which did not help his bedside manner), Icahn shifted to Wall Street. For a time, he worked as an arbitrageur, but he eventually established himself as a takeover artist, orchestrating high-profile raids on companies such as Texaco, RJR Nabisco, and Phillips Petroleum. His method was straightforward: he identified businesses whose assets were worth more than their stock; he acquired enough of that stock to force changes in the company which drove up the stock price; then he sold the stock. Implicit in Icahn’s approach was the conviction that he was smart enough to know more about how to make money in a given business than the executives who actually ran the business. He regarded the management at the companies he targeted with contempt. Unlike Trump, Icahn was not one to insinuate himself into the sort of club that would not accept him as a member; he preferred to storm the clubhouse with a pitchfork. One of Icahn’s oft-repeated bromides is that the average C.E.O. is like a fraternity president: a nice guy to have a beer with, but maybe not too bright.
Corporations, seeing Icahn coming, often tried to fight him off. His reputation grew so fearsome that some companies paid him to go away by buying his shares back at a premium—a practice known as “paying greenmail.” Marty Lipton, a corporate lawyer whose firm has often been hired by companies that were looking to thwart an Icahn takeover, wrote a memo four years ago in which he described raiders like Icahn as engaging in “a form of extortion.” In Lipton’s view, such investors “create short-term increases in the market price of their stock at the expense of long-term value.” In the nineties, when Icahn was fighting for control of Marvel Comics, the company’s C.E.O., a veteran of the Israeli Army, likened dealing with him to negotiating with terrorists.
Icahn prefers to describe himself in more righteous terms, as a warrior for stockholders who have been disenfranchised by inattentive corporate boards and myopic executives. He sees himself as a champion of “shareholder rights,” an advocate for the little guy. By going after lacklustre management, he argues, he has generated “billions and billions” of dollars for shareholders, while managing to make out just fine himself. “I’m like a gunfighter you hire to save the town,” he once remarked. “That gunfighter is there to do good. He knows he’s on the right side, and he’s proud of it, but he’ll only do what he does if he knows he’ll get paid for it.”
A long, wearying New Yorker “profile” of Icahn. I don’t think I can make it much farther. All that unfettered capitalism is making me queasy.
I prescribe 45 minutes of Hilary Clinton speeches to get past the toxic masculinity and predatory capitalism.
What i find hilarious about sentences like this is that they’re written by people who have nearly zero grasp on how either equity markets or corporate management *works*…. for an audience that has also has no clue either.
So they can just throw out a statement: “Guy bought a lot of stock and then magically used the forces of evil capitalism to make the stock go up” and just assume the readers will nod and go, “what a cocksucker!”.
Not at all. Implicit in his approach was an awareness of what *markets value*. e.g. ‘growth + profitability’.
If taking over a company and forcing it to sell under-performing assets makes the newly lean-and-mean corporate structure faster-growing and more-profitable… then you don’t need to know how to “run the business”.
Also sort of odd: the idea that corporate management are supposed to ‘awareness of best interests’ which are somehow different from that of the actual owners (eg.. the stockholders)
Gotta give the New Yorker props for consistency. They venerate the TOP MEN both in government and in the corporate world.
This must be what one of my “progressive” relatives meant when he said that big corporate types “don’t actually do any work” and “artificially drive up stock prices without creating any real value”.
Also, I don’t understand why people think that a CEO or upper-level manager’s position is easy. It seems to be based on a belief that since there’s no physical labor involved, it must be like getting a six-figure salary for nothing. The only people I’ve heard say this are the people who have never held a supervisory or managerial position before. They think that it just involves sitting there and telling other people to do all the work. Well, making decisions about what kind of work needs to be done and who needs to do it IS work, and it’s very difficult work. I used to be an assistant supervisor over about 30 people (and with the regular supervisor taking 28 cigarette breaks per day, I was basically supervisor) and my brain was fried at the end of every day. It’s stressful.
Being the CEO is not easy- it’s the hardest thing you’ve ever done, if you do it right.
I say that as someone who has been the CEO but also gets a six-figure salary for just showing up.
Oh for Christs sake get over yourselves, I have been the ditch digger and the guy telling the ditch digger where to dig. Of course being the boss is easier, that’s why people want to be the boss, there is no shame in admitting that you aren’t working as hard as some other poor sap. Figuring out how to make a living without breaking your back is admirable, why so many people feel the need to express how ‘hard’ their non-hard jobs are amazes me. You sound like the school teachers on Facebook whinging about how tough it is to work nine months a year.
Yeah I kind of agree with you, but being the boss is actually sometimes difficult. I _really_ wanted one of my friends to be my partner, but …
That said, ever been CEO? If not…
I’ve followed Carl Icahn’s work since I was a teenager in the 1980s. What they’re saying is nominally true, but their evaluation shows they don’t have a clue about what they’re talking about. If Icahn’s strategies didn’t lead to better corporate performance for the shareholders, the value of the stock wouldn’t go up for him to sell and he’d lose an imperial shitfuckton of money on financing costs. He got very rich by identifying strategies that made companies perform better for shareholders. I seriously doubt Icahn would say he was smarter than management. It was the case that management and shareholder incentives weren’t aligned. Management often had very big incentives toward low risk / low profitability strategies that left investors screwed. Management also had a big incentive for empire building that often penalized shareholders (it’s more lucrative to be an executive of a big company that does a bad job than an executive of a small company that does a good job). A lot of this took the form of dismantling the ill-advised conglomerates created in the 1960s.
exactly. thats probably a simpler way of making my same point.
the idiots @ the new yorker seem to ignore that his strategies actually *work* as some irrelevant side-detail, when its the whole point. He doesn’t just rip everyone off and destroy companies and parasitically feast on the corpse. He revitalizes firms and ends up creating wealth for ALL the shareholders.
of course they would probably celebrate it if it were some activist investor using their clout to demand ‘more diversity in hiring’ or ‘more sustainable environmental practices’…. even if – nay, because! – it hurt company performance and destroyed shareholder value. Because “intentions!”.
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/arts/music/blog/20972863/gaithersburg-tattoo-shop-kicks-openly-antisemitic-metal-band-off-bill
Going to see this band in Brooklyn tonite, guess I’m a Nazi.
The band are Mexicans. They hate Christianity AND Judaism. There’s a reason its called war metal.
These SJWs metalheads are so full of shit. Outrageous shitting on Christianity is tolerated, but shitting on other religion is hate.
Disclaimer: I am not a Nazi, please dont punch me
Disclaimer: I am not a Nazi, please dont punch me.
That’s just what a Nazi would say, Nazi.
*drops horse shoe into glove*