Well, busy day yesterday. And long night last night. I crawled upstairs in the wee hours, but SP and jesse.in.mb were still drinking. I think they decided to take a pause when the sun came up. So they’re gonna be useless all day and I’m going to have to make my own sammiches. And links.
I’ve heard there were problems in Virginia yesterday. The news media is being careful not to say anything about the fellow who apparently learned his driving in the parking lot of a 99 Ranch. If only they had been so cautious about their early reporting… OMWC has a strict 48 Hour Rule, so I won’t comment about that yet. Nonetheless, editorialists have proposed solutions, and politicians are already standing on the pile of bodies. Of course, it’s Trump’s fault because it always is.
On the same theme, cop toys don’t always work right.
Attention Whores gonna attention whore.
And for today’s music, a fine song from my favorite punk-folk performer. And the chorus is soooooo appropriate.
Why do I get the feeling police departments will use the crash to demand new helicopters?
Free rides for willing civilians.
Free rides for commies too
It’s all Trump’s fault. Even when he gives a measured response because he has no information.
Hell, I even heard self-described libertarians applauding Ted Cruz’s statement. The one that all but called for the Feds to treat this as a hate crime. Because if there’s one thing we need, its hate crime prosecutions for things we already have laws against.
Murder and assault are already illegal IIRC.
Clearly if we make it illegaller then no one will ever do it. /derp-logic
The “hate crime” logic must be based on some odd moral precepts. Murder is murder; assault is assault. I don’t see how it’s worse if the person picked a specific demographic for the victim. Think about it: would Hitler have been not quite so bad if he had picked ~6 million random people instead of ~6 million Jews?
Hmm- while I agree with you about really serious crimes against people, like murder, serious assault, etc., I do think there are some less serious crimes you could at least make an argument for treating more seriously based on motivation, especially if they’re committed as part of an organized campaign of intimidation or harassment. Burning something on someone’s lawn is a crime. I’d argue that burning a cross on the lawn of a Black neighbor should maybe be treated a bit more seriously than a random act of setting something on fire on a random person’s lawn.
Yeah, but that’s already covered by existing laws prior to the existence of hate crimes. In fact, in the scenario you’re describing, the hate crime aspect implies that there’s a criminal aspect to what is in essence protected speech. Regular law has you covered all the way through threatening your neighbor; hate crime legislation makes it an aggravating factor to simply hold to the belief that black people in general are inferior or bad or whatever. It comes very, very close to make racism a crime, which stomps all over the 1A and gets us smack dab into Orwell.
Well, I’m pretty absolutist when it comes to protecting the right to articulate even truly abhorrent viewpoints. For any of this to make sense I think you have to at the very least require that there be an initial offense to aggravate. I’d say as well that any extra weight given to the offense shouldn’t be to punish holding a viewpoint, but because it indeed makes the offense more consequential. The reason that you might take burning a cross on someone’s lawn more seriously isn’t because the person burning the cross holds an abhorrent viewpoint. It is because it makes the burning very clearly an attempt at intimidation/harassment.
Now I don’t think hate-crime legislation is the right way to take this into account, especially since it’s almost certainly going to be applied capriciously and almost certainly used to punish people for holding certain views. But I do think that it’s not unreasonable to take things like this into account in deciding the severity of certain offenses.
Yes, burning something on somebody’s lawn worse if it’s done as part of a deliberate harassment/intimidation campaign instead of being done as just a prank or mischief.
Trying to intimidate people who are exercising their rights or just going about their lawful business should be a crime regardless of the reason. It shouldn’t matter whether the intimidation is because they’re black, a Trump supporter, or just a person you don’t get along with and would like to see leave the neighborhood. But only one of those three attributes is considered extra-serious by the current law.
Yeah, I agree 100%. The violence of the Antifa people in Berkeley was already pretty criminal. But it should, IMHO, be taken more seriously because it was a criminal conspiracy to deny people their civil rights.
Although, thinking about it… I also think that the law has a reasonable interest in tamping down crimes that tend to inflame “tribal” conflicts. People like to pick sides, and they like to go to war with people who’ve picked other sides. sometimes the groupings are based on inherent characteristics, like race. And sometimes they are more ephemeral.
There will always be assholes who just do random asshole things. We should punish the for it, but in cases of low-level assholery it’s not all _that_ serious. On the other hand, when people start committing even low-level crimes visibly motivated by tribal membership it invites tit-for-tat, and escalation.
Kind of like the early scenes of Romeo and Juliet. The Prince is concerned not just because a scuffle breaks out on the streets of Verona, but because it’s clear that the rivalry between the Montagues and Capulets is just going to escalate, and is a larger threat to the peace than just the scuffle itself might lead you to believe.
Now, how you encode this in a general and even-handed way in law I don’t know, and hate-crime laws as they stand don’t seem to do so very well at all.
would Hitler have been not quite so bad if he had picked ~6 million random people instead of ~6 million Jews?
I wonder if this is the logic progs use when they completely ignore the body count of Stalin and Mao.
I’m sure it is.
“B-b-but at least Stalin and Mao weren’t racist! And they had both men and women lined up against the same wall when they were shot for being political dissidents! Why can’t we achieve such amazing gender equality here??”
The thing is, Hitler didn’t just go out and find 6 million random people to kill. Neither did Lenin, or Stalin, or Mao, or Pol Pot. With Hitler it was based on ethnicity (and some other things- Jews weren’t the only out-group he targeted.) In the USSR it was the Kulaks, and a variety of other groups who were made “enemies of the people.” In China and Cambodia it was largely the urban intellectuals. It seems to be mainly that way when it comes to really large-scale atrocity.
Now, there’s not much the law can do to restrain despots, since they make the law. But despots seem often to come to power on the back of tribal tensions that have simmered for a while in their nations.
Well, it’s because someone was killed, which ratchets up the tension, and Nazis were there, and they’re classic villains. Hence, in some fashion, the racist whites were either directly or indirectly responsible. Also, if you’re an anti-Trump type a measured response sounds like endorsement of the KKK and a big fat sieg hell. If he personally shot Richard Spencer dead in the street while wearing a BLM shirt they’d still find fault.
Attention Whores gonna attention whore.
Suggesting you shouldn’t play the anthem before sporting events, period, is however seen as crazy. You can only protest it for one particular reason.
If you don’t play the anthem, the drunken crowd might forgot they are proud ‘Muricans and start throwing bananas on the field like they are at a soccer game.
That’s what the military flyovers are for (although I don’t agree with those, either).
I thought playing the anthem was signalling last call for drinks before the game begins
So I still believe that Trump really should’ve given more of a “fuck Nazis” statement, like I said last night.
However.
The far left, and anti-fa, have been normalizing political violence since election day. It’s a feedback loop that’s been going on and on and eventually someone was going to die, whichever side it was caused by. And the reaction to yesterday is probably going to further it.
It is interesting that condemning ‘hatred, bigotry and violence’ doesn’t equate to denouncing racists somehow.
It’s dog whistles all the way down.
Well, it’s interesting that condemning ‘hatred, bigotry and violence’ doesn’t narrow the target down in the minds of the critics.
If Obama had said the exact same statement it would have been exalted as “just what we needed to hear from our President”.
If he had said anything, or even nothing he would have been praised.
I abhor Nazis and any other form of white nationalism. Same way I feel about antifa or any other group that proposes or carries out violence against people that disagree with them.
Having said that, those groups have constitutional rights the same as anybody. And until they commit an act of violence, they should enjoy those rights the same as anybody else. And politicians coming out and condemning anybody who ascribes to white nationalism and saying they need to be shut down or cracked down on by the police is doing our constitution and our fundamental right to free speech a disservice. And they need to cut this out.
It looks like several crimes were committed yesterday. Lots of assaults, not sure who instigated it. And of course the car ramming the crowd. There is little to no info about any of the people involved. So politicians should STFU until more info comes our. And when they speak, they should speak about the individuals involved and if ideology played a role. But they shouldn’t talk of shutting groups down or getting rid of the 1A for wrongthinkers. Because that’s what fascists and communists do, not a free people.
I concur, unfortunately that is just what will happen. Wrongthink is going to get a lot more dangerous for the outgroups. I think that JB and maybe Viking and I had a little thread on this awhile ago, but it comes down to inciting violence through revolutionary cosplay. Antifa has been bikelocking people and hurling bricks, but fleeing in the face of any real challenge. The altrighter who show up have been none too shy about responding in kind, though it is generally a response and not an initiation. Someone was going to get martyred eventually. If this dude (the driver) turns out to be a for real Neo Nazi then Antifa gets emboldened, even more. Watch for the next causality in this slow motion, cosplay-civil war to an altrighter
I concur, unfortunately that is just what will happen.
Already is. Trump made a statement that was both concise, addressed the issue and did not conjecture. IOW, his statement was perfect in light of having zero info on who the instigators were or their motive. It also condemned violence on all sides and called for it to stop. That’s what a leader does: he seeks calm from ALL people involved.
But I have libertarian friends who I respect saying his statement was inadequate because he didn’t single out one specific side. They’re applauding other GOPers saying we need to use hate crime laws to go after whoever is committing crimes because of their ideology (I always thought libertarians hated hate crime legislation). They are supporting things they always stood against just because they’re now being proposed by never-Trumpers.
The far left and the far right have always played principals over principles. It makes me sad that there are libertarians making the same mistake just because it’s a convenient way to knock Trump.
We had this quick talk on that chat app (whatever its called) last night. All about in and out groups and how generally we thought libertarians were pretty good ar not getting all circle-jerky-echo-chamber. But it’s human nature to socialize and tribalize. I see the appeal of scoring hits on Trump, I just don’t don’t see it being a long term winning strategy to yoke ourselves to other tribes (never-trumpers)
Playing devil’s advocate, I think it is perfectly fine for a libertarian or President to speak out against a group with whom they disagree. Not that I’m saying Trump should have taken sides. As far I can tell, this was commies vs. white supremacists (with a bunch of others in the mix), so there was no good side to take. But he The answer to bad speech is good speech. And although political leaders should be more careful about what they say, he has as much a right as anyone else.
I’m fine with them callkngmout the thoughts behind the movements. But calling for them to be shut down and for the DoJ to go after them? That’s a direct chilling of the 1A and politicians should never engage in it under any circumstances.
I agree they shouldn’t call to shut down protests based on ideology. It’s not OK to “punch a Nazi”. The Tea Party rallies were protests. The Woman’s March was a protest. Assault and vandalism is not a protest. Arson isn’t speech. Those things are illegal, and should be prosecuted. But I agree that “hate crime” laws are totally wrong.
“condemned violence on all sides and called for it to stop. That’s what a leader does: he seeks calm from ALL people involved.”
It’s the sort of thing we’d expect from any other President…although it’s too bad there are so many expectations on Presidents.
A more constitutionally-oriented President would deplore the violence only in the context of saying federal assistance is available to the states if they request it to handle riots, and to reiterate that he will uphold the First Amendment against anyone who wants to use the event as an excuse for censoring peaceful speech/assembly.
Obviously, this isn’t the criticism which is being levelled at Trump.
How about a section just for special tweets on this special day.
I’ll start.
Nice one JK. I see her cutting wit is sharp as always
https://twitter.com/chelseahandler/status/896034013214908416
This take on the subject was so hot it came out 32 hours before the violence.
So some sort of trans-temporal hot take? Where’s Titor, we need a timelaw ruling.
Be careful, you’ll summon the Time Lawyers, and no one wants to deal with those assholes.
What about Temporal Investigations? Those guys are hilarious.
How exactly do these people justify all these calls to remove Trump from office? What law(s) did Trump violate that means he must go? Not liking his views isn’t justification for removing him.
Look, he’s just a bad seed. Don’t you get it? And just because there’s a loophole where he won even though he lost by eleventy million votes doesn’t mean we should take it. So come on, comrade. Join me in ousting this horrible man from office. We can go back to respecting the law of the land tomorrow. But for today we need to abandon it for our, our children’s and the planet’s sake.
It was her turn.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg would agree. Other countries have better constitutions. Myanmar for starters.
If I recall the military is guaranteed a good chunk of the decision making process, so no I don’t think they would like that one.
It has worked great so far for Turkey.
*TILT*
Ted Rall
@TedRall
I am so proud of the anti-racist protesters in #Charlottesville for not succumbing to the usual pacifist wimpiness. #realresistance
My kneejerk reaction was that this is some kind of sedition/incitement to violence. I know that is wrong, but that was my first thought.
Twitter brave
“What an inspiring country where a career in white nationalism is open to Americans of every sex, race, creed, and national origin”
https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/896727294688935937
They will ALWAYS blame “white nationalism” even when some of the people involved are black. Just like when Freddie Gray was killed by the police in Baltimore – black mayor, black police commissioner, and several of the cops involved were black. But no, it’s “internalized racism”.
The biggest issue in this country is the conflict between the powerful and the disempowered; the accountable and the unaccountable. The BLM types have really poisoned the whole debate by making it explicitly about race.
Frum isn’t even on the left, he’s an asshole Canadian neocon that I’m glad is America’s problem now.
Morning y’all. Got some nice commie hot takes for ya.
Plays ‘Internatinal’
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/08/13/nazi-a13.html
World Wide Socialists manage to look more ridiculous than the Daily Stormer. I’m impressed.
It’s truly a depthless well of derp.
Oh and the Brits have a nice primer on assholes
(spoiler) not included Antifa or any of its allies
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40915356
The article is about the KKK and yet their first photo is Milo
I posted a bunch of random nonsense over at HnR. To summarize:
Before the car assault, the talking heads (at CNN I think) were talking over a video loop of a violent clash of protesters. One group dressed in black with maybe punisher logo style t-shirts, helmets with logos, clubs and a big shield of plywood confronted a group of goofy looking fat guys – a couple of whom were wearing bullet proof vests and helmets. I assumed by the context of the talking heads speaking of Nazis assaulting counter-protesters that the guys in black were Nazis.
But it turned out that they were antifa types. They had come planning to assault the march, and did so. But nobody mentioned that.
And now my google-fu is insufficient to turn up that video.
I dunno. Does it change the narrative at all if the violence was started by a bunch of anarchists who came organized and equipped to start a riot with the intention of preventing the protest rally …. and did so?
Or does the idiot with the car trump everything, and now the only thing we need to discuss is how all Trump supporters are violent Nazi skinhead KKK types who hate minorities and will just run down people in a crowd?
I’m definitely no supporter of either Trump or the white nationalist guys. But my wiring is such that it bothers me when things are not reported accurately or fairly. Even when I agree with the unfair.
I’d really like to see an accurate timeline, because it looks for all the world like a bunch of anarchists started the violent clashes – as planned. If that’s right, that should also be a big part of the narrative.
I also wanted everyone to see that video of the anarchists, because there was this maybe-a-chick anarchist who spits on this really goofy looking fat guy wearing a bullet proof vest, helmet, elbow pads and MMA style gloves. They looped the maybe 2 minute clip over and over and over, so I kept getting to see her taunt him and spit a huge loogie right on his chest.
And that was the time for the police to step in. You have two groups dressed for a riot form up and come together, you probably shouldn’t stand back and do nothing. Particularly if one of the groups has a permit to march, and the other group is trying to physically stop them from doing so.
Does it change the narrative at all if the violence was started by a bunch of anarchists who came organized and equipped to start a riot with the intention of preventing the protest rally
Please don’t call them anarchists. They are fighting in the streets to rule and be ruled, and for The Restoration of King Barack.
+1 Glorious revolution
Thank you for that. I didn’t see the Yellow and Black being flown in any videos.
I saw the pink and black in a few.
Wikipedia’s way of saying that “anarchism” doesn’t really mean anything.
Could it have been this one?
https://mobile.twitter.com/TEN_GOP/status/896397469491372032
The first five seconds is hilarious. Like, who taught Dr Frank N Furter to lunge when he(?) punches?
LOL
No, it was way before that. The antifa guys are dressed in solid black, head to toe. Identical uniforms. They have black helmets with logos on the side, black t-shirts, black jeans. And a giant shield made from two pieces of plywood that says something about “there is no god” and has an anarchist logo at the bottom.
They form up behind their shield – made into a wedge – and plow into the idiots from the white nationalists. Violence and pepper spray ensues.
Oh my. Those dumbasses with their confederate flags. YOU LOST.
Whose party was it? Who had the permits? Who has repeatedly shown they will resort to violence? I guess a silver lining to all this is that at least “Racist!” is losing it’s spot on the top of evil things you can be. After all, I could have a discussion with a racist, but wouldn’t want to try that with, say, a “rapist” or “murderer”.
In this case at least, both groups have shown that they will resort to violence. So kinda predictable, I’d say.
During the press conference, the Charlottesville mayor basically wouldn’t even address the ANTIFA component to all of this, only the “we don’t welcome hate in our city blah blah blah” stuff. The police did intervene, but it was after everything went completely to shit. I hate to dust off my tinfoil hat, but I think politicians are scared to intervene against ANTIFA because of the ridiculously biased backlash they would get. Charlottesville isn’t Berkeley, but who knows? Everyone just completely ignores that ANTIFA is absolutely a “hate” organization in its own right, but somehow their particular brand of hate gets a pass because they’re woke.
Thought experiment: had ANTIFA not shown up, would this whole thing have turned violent? Doubt it. Everywhere they show up, whether they’re the protesters or the counter-protesters, things turn rioty.
From what I’ve seen so far, I agree the police didn’t do their job. Just like Berkeley, Baltimore, etc.
Charlottesville ain’t far from becoming Berkeley. It was always a Dem town, but it has veered hard left over the past 15 years as UVA itself has itself lurched to the left.
No; it’s all Trump’s fault. His rhetoric forced the so called “antifas” (of course they’re really profa) to show up and attack.
I’d go so far to say that if Trump hadn’t have been elected that antifa wouldn’t even be a thing. Racist, sexist homophobes like Milo wouldn’t have felt emboldened so their speech wouldn’t have had to be shut down in places like Berkeley with violence. And limousines owned by middle class immigrants wouldn’t need to be torched on Inauguration Day to make a point that rich people have no place in politics.
Don’t you fuckers see? If he never would have been elected none of this would be necessary. So if you are against antifa, blame your cheeto Jesus and have him removed from office. Because it’s his fault these people had no choice but to step up and commit violence. Their motives are pure. His aren’t.
Nice. I’ve actually seen very similar comments, couched in less direct language. About a quater of my derpbook is deep blue progs, so I get the skinny on their talking points.
Points at Europe
And yet they are active over there to.
Antifa was already a thing before Trump got into power, they just got a huge power injection when middle and upper class idiot children decided to cosplay the revolution. Even before Trump they have a history of going to protests and making them violent (attacking neo-Nazis, being part of black bloc attacks at G20 events, etc.).
“I’d really like to see an accurate timeline”
I think you’ll get your wish…once it’s too late.
What they do is get out the fake narrative first, and pump up the outrage…later they come out with the real, more complex narrative, but only after they’ve squeezed all the juice they could out of the fake narrative.
Thus we eventually found out what likely happened with Michael Brown, when the Obama Justice Department and the media finally permitted us to reject the fake narrative, knowing quite well that the initial impressions caused by the fake narrative had done their job.
Or when they were obliged to reject the fake Rolling Stone rape story, they reassured us that one fake story shouldn’t divert us from the important narrative of a Repe Epidemic.
Rape Epidemic
There also was a narrative of a Pepe Epidemic. The Clinton campaign even posted about it on their webpage.
I mean, they have enough standards that they will do an intensive investigation to rebut a story which is so obviously false their self-respect won’t let them repeat it.
Of course, if a situation is more ambiguous than “robber grabs cop’s gun in front of witnesses” or “nutty student’s story falls apart on even the closest examination,” then getting at the truth may take them more time. I’m not sure they’ve fully assimilated the reality of the Matthew Shepard case, for instance.
Just speculation here, but… The fact that the CNN video said “the two groups began to clash” is interesting. We all know that if there was any evidence that the white nationalists started the violence, CNN would be blowing the fuck up with that big bold headline about violent neo-Nazis. That makes me think that the “anti-fascists” started the violence, and CNN is just glossing over that fact with an ambiguous line like “the two groups began to clash”.
Maybe someone at CNN with a half-ounce of sense realized that there’s probably going to be a lot of video footage percolating through the Internet as time passes, and there’s a reasonable chance it’s going to show that the Antifa are the ones who initiated the violence.
I’m pretty sure the video I watched was on CNN, repeated on a loop for quite a long time. It is nowhere on CNN that I can find at the moment. It clearly depicted an incident that showed a bunch of antifa kids provoking a confrontation then assaulting a group of protesters.
The protesters , for their part, were all to willing to engage the antifa kids and respond in kind.
There were clearly two groups hoping for violence. The video CNN was playing at the time indicated that the antifa folks were the initiators.
One additional observation: Nobody talking on CNN for the brief period I was listening (less than 30 minutes) seemed to know that the idiots dressed all in black were a bunch of antifa anarchists. They may have been under the impression that they were Nazis, because they did look awfully Nazi. If you weren’t really looking, the other group looked much more like a random bunch of protesters. But a second look showed a couple of guys wearing ill-fitting tactical gear. And a third look turned up a Trump shirt and a couple of racist flags. But at first glance you’d have thought you were looking at an organized bunch of Nazis dressed in all black attacking a bunch of sorta-peaceful counter-protesters.
All this enticed me to look at my Facebook feed for the first time in forever. Sure enough, there were tons of posts of photos of neo-nazis saying “this is Trump’s America” and “free speech doesn’t apply to hate speech”. All posts were insistent that everything that happened yesterday was because of this ‘violent hate group’ and no mention of Antifa or anything else. There was also an interesting thread where some guy said he didn’t like the alt-right saying ‘white lives matter’ as they marched yesterday — all lives matter! That brought a cascade of people saying he was racist, and didn’t he know that black men are getting gunned down by police every single day — that you are risking your life if you go outside as a black man in the USA?
What scares me more than anything is to realize how many people get their opinions and ‘facts’ from Facebook and perhaps 30 minutes of NBC Nightly News during dinner. How do you even have an intelligent debate with people like that? I tried to point out something about the Paris Accords to a colleague after Trump pulled out — just how unequally China and US fare in the ‘treaty’ — and he responded “sounds like someone’s been watching Faux News!” Doesn’t matter if I was right or not, it was against the Facebook narrative, and therefore needed to be immediately dismissed.
If bad things go down, it will be because a huge swath of the populace likes being told what to think, and even feel superior because of it. If you stray from the path, they will point at you and scream, just like in “Invasion of the Body Snatchers”.
Thomas told reporters a 32-year-old woman was killed while she was crossing the street. Her name was not released.
What, no baby carriage?
Ok Brooksie, just for you.
In Nork news
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40913650
I couldn’t give a fuck less if Lynch sits or stands during the anthem.
The only Lynch I care about sitting or standing is Loretta Lynch and whether she sits or stands as she’s put under oath to give an explanation why she perjured herself the last time she sat in front of a senate committee.
Only thing bothers me is that this could drum up last years hyper-jingoism that had people giving me the stink-eye and in one case an earful of ‘people died for you’ when I didn’t stand for the anthem before a ballgame that was on the T.V. in the bar that I happened to be drinking at.
I live in a deep red area and I’ve never seen anyone stand for the anthem being played on TV. Where were you, the VFW or something?
The wife and I went to Savannah as part of our honeymoon road trip some seven years ago and a similar thing happened in a bar. A baseball game came on and when the anthem started up some lady across the bar from me started gesturing frantically at her head and then me. Eventually I gathered that she wanted me to rahe my hat off. I’ve never seen that anywhere else.
*take. Stupid phone.
Wife and I went to Savannah for our honeymoon too, though that was only 2 years ago. We loved it. Did you get a chance to go Mrs. Wilkes restaurant?
That restaurant was so good.
As it happens, my wife and I also went to Savannah on our honeymoon, nearly two decades ago. I did not enjoy eating at the Pirate House as much as I thought I would.
Well, you were indoors you barbarian.
Just a bar and grill in north central Ohio, to be fair it was only during/right after the Kapernick fiasco and social signaling was en vogue.
That’s… ridiculous.
The ridiculous-ness hit its high point the night the CAVS season opener was 40 minutes before a World Series game, yep two rounds of everyone getting their patriotism on less than an hour apart.
I’ve been in my old VFW Post, in a room full of combat vets, and nobody even cares the National Anthem is being played at a game on TV….sigh.
We often get that same stink-eye at Sesame Place. We drive down from NYC and get there before the park opens. When the anthem plays and the Holy Pole-Quilt is raised, we use the fact that all the rubes are facing the flag to waltz up to the very front of the line. I had to salute colors and face the damn post cannon twice a day for many, many years and I feel I have put in enough time participating in jingoism. Also, the “…on the T.V. at the bar” part is just bloody silly but it reminds me that “When the wedding of Princess Marina, the Duchess of Kent, was transmitted over the wireless in 1934, the prelates worried that the service might have been heard by men wearing hats in public houses…”
http://heavy.com/news/2017/08/heather-heyer-victim-who-died-charlottesville-rally-car-crash-photos-age-bio/
The woman who was killed was a Bernie supporter, which, by the logic of Slate and Salon, means she wanted Trump to be president. Her death, therefore, can really only be seen from their perspective as an extremely elaborate form of suicide.
Now that that has come to surface I expect the divide on team blue to deepen. Do they reflectively condemn her for not full supporting Herself, or do they mark her as an victim of patriarchal violence and nazism? I would split the hair on that, if I were them, she deserved it but it only goes to show why Trump must be stopped.
So she didn’t persist?
*narrows gaze*
She’ll be a victim of nazis for as long as that narrative holds. That she supported Bernie over Hillary doesn’t matter.
(begins looking for rabbit costume)
A tweet embedded in that article:
Wow
Someone is dead and we’re talking about her privilege
Okay
Over/under on the percentage of undercover Feds who participated in the Tiki March?
Just had that conversation with my brother. No evidence to directly support that, but the Feds surely would benefit from stirring up shit.
They sure would and do. But I was thinking from an undercover intelligence gathering operation.
I always heard that like a quarter of those orgs are fed agents keeping an eye on things
And another quarter are probably informants.
A licky boom boom down
https://youtu.be/Icb_tRTnA4g
One of those Idaho based White Power groups in the late 90s had a 5 man governing board/steering committee. 4 of the 5 were undercover Feds from different fed LE agencies. Like, an FBI agent, an ATF agent, a US Marshal, and a DEA agent sitting in a room with one actual Neo Nazi.
Did they walk into a bar?
Yes. And after drinks all the Feds ducked out and left the Nazi with the tab.
Darn, I should have said they walk into a beer hall.
+1 putsch
“Putsch your hands in their air, now chant ‘Sieg Heil’ like you just don’t care!”
Irish version:
“Throw your hand in the air
Now point it out on the beach to show it was there.”
Do the Nuremberg!
So it was The Man Who was Thursday.
Yesterday, for no good reason, I watched few Morning Joke clips .I learned that the raid on Manafort’s home was a no-knock raid in the wee hours of the morning. Scarborough, arch-conservative that he is, and the rest of the jokesters thought that was A-okay. Because Manafort might have swallowed his thumb drives or something. Or maybe he might have used his Spetznatz superspy training to kill all the federal marshals
What a sorry state of affairs.
I wish I had seen this example of why journalism has no future when I was assembling links this morning. Or at the very least, why Newsweek has no future.
Newsweek is only worth $1. Literally, $1.
I present DaRoots hot take.
Enjoy
http://www.theroot.com/donald-trump-just-blamed-the-white-supremacist-hunger-g-1797785951
Ann Coulter was up late trolling on Twitter about not blaming all White Nationalists for the actions of a few
No; it’s all Trump’s fault. His rhetoric forced the so called “antifas” (of course they’re really profa) to show up and attack.
A clear case of self defense.
I am currently in Chicago for a layover flight on my way to Sioux Falls, SD. So this is what it feel like in central time, huh? Buncha freaks out here thinking they can do everything one hour later than God’s chosen time.
You just can’t win with some people
TW: EF
http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/12/focusing-on-her-pleasure/
LOLOLOL that site is such a goldmine
Yeah, it goes deeper than Moria and there’s a monster that lives in it’s depths as well
Lol got a “Help! We Might Shut Down Without Your Support!” popup.
Sorry gals, I’m pretty sure that would be altruistic misogyny… So I can’t.
Manfunding.
See?? It’s all the market’s fault that EverydayFeminism is not financially viable!
Thankfully you don’t have to worry about that when nobody on planet earth would even give passing consideration to having sex with you.
When you have to include several paragraphs before your article starts just to qualify your language and define simple terms then you know that you’ve gone off the deep end.
How many months you figure until the feds go Ruby Ridge on some 15-member sovereign citizen group in East Jesus to crack down on the growing threat of domestic terrorism from right wing extremists?
If Herself was running the show it would have happened already, you know Clintons love them some repression
It always amused me when Welch and Gillespie at Reason would wax poetic about the peace-surplus, domestic-bliss, third-way 1990s when all was right with the world. Yeah, I mean, other than Somalia, Bosnia, the no-fly zone in Iraq, Ruby Ridge, Waco, the assault weapons ban, Oklahoma City, Elian Gonzalez, the drug war, VAWA, the ’94 Crime Act…
Ruby Ridge was under Bush the First.
But yeah, it’s astounding how Waco faded from the public consciousness. The US government deliberately, and with months to think about what they were about to do, attacked a building full of a religious minority. They used tanks, helicopter gunships, and masked paramilitary troops to assault a building full of men, women, and children over an alleged tax violation. They burned children alive in their homes for the alleged crimes of their parents.
Free country my fucking ass.
I never forget 4-19
Yeah, I was a teenager for most of the 90s, and was pretty aware of news and current events. They need to ditch the rose-tinted glasses.
Let’s see…how many months are left in the trump presidency? Take that number and add 3 to it.
The leadership of the federal law enforcement agencies hasn’t changed substantially even at the figurehead level, let alone the middle management level where that kind of shit actually takes place. And Sessions certainly isn’t going to tamp it down even if it’s brought to his attention. The Republican party isn’t exactly a bastion of federal police power restraint.
More, so much more crazy…
https://wearyourvoicemag.com/identities/race/need-white-allies-white-supremacists-virginia
How does “fuck you” sound?
Not sufficient, perform Hail Clintons and donate a portion of your check to amend for your whiteness
You’re on to something. Carbon offsets show the model. Donate money to offset your whiteness.
Yeah like I would spend my time giving a fuck.
I did, and let’s just say that the conclusion I came to wasn’t that reparations were in order.
Is that “wear your voice” or “weary our voice”?
I may have missed this one, but I don’t remember seeing any coverage
Six Arrested in Registry of Motor Vehicles Identity Theft Scheme
There is no cannibalism in the Royal Navy.
It’s bad form to bring up voter fraud on a day when Trump has already emboldened white nationalists by not condemning each and every one of them personally. This will double-embolden them.
Why do you hate brown people?
Real Americans use guns. This whole running people over with cars business is something an effete European would do
ANd this headline amused me
Taylor Swift is tough, cool and in control. Unlike Donald Trump
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/11/taylor-swift-toughness-donald-trump-talk
Lol. I wasn’t expecting that to be the actual headline.
Btw, there were no cameras in the court room, so there’s really no way of knowing how composed and cool Taylor Swift was or wasn’t in court. But some insight into her level of maturity and composure might be gained from the fact that she’s quoted as saying “I am critical of your client for sticking his hand under my skirt and grabbing my ass.” Little histrionic for court, IMO.
Also i dunno it this was covered already but the guardian is such and endless pool of derp one never knows
‘Will even white people die?’ How to explain nuclear war to your kids
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/aug/10/will-even-white-people-die-how-to-explain-nuclear-war-to-your-kids
I like how the cartoon dead tells his son it is unfortunate there is n o plan to eradicate whites
Is that some kind of triple reverse ironic humour?
I like how Dad says that there is unfortunately no plan to eradicate white people from teh earth.
Fitting that the article is followed by a blurb begging for donations. No thanks.
One time I was drunk and I saw one of those, and I thought I was on the Daily Mail because their sites look similar on mobile, and I was like, “What the hell, they’re a little tabloidy, but they’re better than most,” and gave them $5. Then I sobered up and realized what I’d done and vowed to never drink again.
I think that overloaded my derp-circuits. I’ve realized that trying to read something that stupid just makes my eyes glaze over.
I’d say this is Peak Guardian, but like Peak Derp, Peak Guardian will never be achieved.
Aren’t those two one and the same?
Looking at all the commotion the best thing for the world is that the extremists on both side are a worthless bunch of assholes who couldn’t take over a park let alone a country.
But what thought process end with the conclusion that marching with tiki torches and screaming blood and soil is a good look?
None. But it’s a guaranteed right under our constitution.
Furthermore, you’re conflating two events. What you’re talking about happened Friday night. The torches and chants and all that shit. Antifa didn’t come in force until Saturday.
My point is that it wasn’t all the same people at both events. But the media is taking footage from Friday’s “torchlit”* march and attributing it to the Saturday crowd.
*To address the tiki torches: it is illegal to carry a torch in a public area in Virginia due to the fire hazard. (That’s their excuse butnit was really to stop marches like this and from asshole Klanners way back when). So these guys got the tiki torches because they’re actually considered rightfully to be candles. They did it to comply with state law.
Is it some kind of South Pacific thing?
Wikipedia says it originated in Polynesia.
But Polynesians aren’t white!
I wasn’t talking about the violence but about the chanting. I have no problem with their right to do it i just think it’s stupid
And the Friday event didn’t have a permit. I’m not even sure to what extent a university would have had to give a permit to an outside group of marchers, but there was no permit, and all but the most anarchic First Amendment supporters think that a permit, promptly issued on a nonpolitical basis, can be required for marches on public property.
I’d like the think the courts would let the authorities give permits to rival groups to march on different days, to minimize the risk of violence. But for all I know the courts might deem this an excessive restriction on the sacred right of peaceable assembly.
Looking at all the commotion the best thing for the world is that the extremists on both side are a worthless bunch of assholes who couldn’t take over a park let alone a country.
The useful idiots only need to provide sufficient popular support to capture a handful of social institutions. There’s never going to be another boots-on-the-ground revolutionary war.
http://nypost.com/2017/08/09/brewing-company-cashes-in-on-summer-of-hell/
That’s some good trolling work Lou.
LOL
Speaking of good trolls
“Los Angeles street artist savages Google with epic art mocking them for ‘think different, get fired’”
https://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/08/12/los-angeles-street-artist-savages-google-with-epic-art-mocking-them-for-think-different-get-fired/
*falls out of chair*
“AirDropping penis pics is the latest horrifying subway trend”
http://nypost.com/2017/08/12/airdropping-dick-pics-is-the-latest-horrifying-subway-trend/
Two people, who very well might be full of shit, is not a “trend”.
What’s wrong with those people? Why can’t they just let all those commuters enjoy their buttered rolls in peace.
“iPhone 1 would like to share a note with you,” read the note sent at 6:51 p.m. She hit “Accept” and was horrified by what she saw. “It was just a huge close-up picture of a disgusting penis,” said Carlson, of Bushwick, Brooklyn. The message was titled “Straw” and was sent by an anonymous stranger.
“It really felt like someone had actually just flashed me.”
Yeah, being retarded enough to accept random messages from unknown iPhones in your general vicinity is exactly like being flashed. Maybe if the flashing went down like this:
“Hey, you want to look under my trenchcoat?”
“Sure! Why not!”
“Surprise! It’s my dick!”
a huge close-up picture of a disgusting penis
What a shitlord, othering someone’s family jewels.
Warty was not impressed
Cishetero shitlords.
Oregon farmer furious with deputy who shot and killed his $1,200 goat — but police claim self-defense
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/oregon-farmer-furious-county-deputy-killed-goat-article-1.3399528
To be fair, goats can be real assholes.
Already posted days ago!
“The goat shouldn’t have butted into police business. When our people goat to an area they are trained to secure the area. Respect the police, or next time it may be ewe.” /Police union rep
Blind squirrel meet acorn.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/11/opinion/sunday/traffic-stop-police-accident.html?referer=https://t.co/fUxJipp3Fr?amp=1
Of course it’s a guest op-ed writer. Nobody on the NYT staff could write something this well.
That was an excellent piece. I’m surprised the NYT published it.
Oh-Hi-O
Suspect Name, Mugshot Emerges In Charlottesville Car Attack That Killed 1, Injured 26
If that was the case then it changes some aspects of the crime. It’s not okay to run people down, but if you car is getting swarmed then at least there’s an aspect of self defense. If it’s true that this guy panicked and floored it as opposed to running down a bunch of lefties for the lulz then the visceral antifa glee might just dissipate a little
You know what, fuck that. If people were beating on an innocent man’s car, they deserve everything they got. I saw Reginald Denny and what happens if you stop moving with thugs trying to hurt you.
Fair enough, if he did panic, as I said it changes the narrative some. But he is still responsible for actions. I don’t know how I would have reacted but I would like to think it would have been more level headed
This was my initial impression, until I read that the driver backed up and rammed the crowd a second time.
If that’s true then he really stepped in it and gave Antifa exactly what they have been craving
Yeah, I’d agree that there are cases like that. The video of this doesn’t look like that to me though. He accelerates down a fairly open street for quite a distance before crashing into the other cars/crowd. It looked pretty deliberate. Now _maybe_ he was just so panicked that he did that, but even if that were the case it was not at all a reasonable action.
I do think that the actions of Antifa over the last six months or so should be taken into account- this isn’t the same thing as someone deliberately plotting to drive a car into a random group of people, as we’ve seen in Europe a few times. And at this point my guess would be that this guy did this spontaneously, and acted entirely alone (though who knows for sure, right?) But this was a horrific crime, and none of the context around it makes it any less horrific.
“Oh-Hi-O”
Only 3 dead this time.
Fuck off, bitch.
Heidi Stevens: We’re a country hooked on rage
“Shannon Watts, Moms Demand Action blame Charlottesville violence on NRA, gun laws
Moms Demand Action founder Shannon Watts took to Twitter on Saturday to vilify the National Rifle Association and gun laws in Virginia as the reason behind the violent protests taking place in Charlottesville.
Watt began retweeting various tweets with the same phrase: “The radicalization of America has been encouraged by the @NRA and open carry laws, which enable armed intimidation. #Charlottesville.”
https://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/08/12/shannon-watts-moms-demand-action-blame-charlottesville-violence-on-nra-gun-laws/
hammer nail etc
We need common sense Dodge Charger control.
Boss Hogg is that you?
Who?
Bloomberg AstroTurf
What a cunt
Feminism can be funny too: Julie Klausner and season 3 of Difficult People on Hulu
Tweeters
Against
Racist
Drivers
*Pretend this is a response to Couch Potato. TY*
Tweeters
Are
Really
Dumb
Cancer can be funny, it just usually isn’t, to reference old Milo Y wherever he may be
It’s like living inside Larry David’s mind if Larry David was a woman who binged on chicken fingers and knew all about Countess Luann’s divorce, only more subversive, gay-positive and political.
That sounds absolutely side splitting.
Gah! No TW? No Soup for you!
I made it as far as I care to. What drek. My money shot…
‘pretty recent that women have a chance to be unlikable on TV or selfish’. I disagree, every sitcom wife comes off in shades of unlikability, they tend to be shrewish and manipulative, while the husband plays the boorish oaf. It’s a pretty standard trope, too.
You mean like Lucille Ball did sixty years ago?
That’s as far as I got.
“So a sexist walks into a bar…and his dick falls off.
“So a rapist walks onto the gallows, and he’s well hung, ha ha, get it?
“The management tells me I can’t use my Trump joke because they got visited by the Secret Service last time. So I’ll just say Trump is dumn. And fascist.”
First woman to join Navy SEAL training pipeline drops out
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-sd-female-seal-20170812-story.html
I wonder if causal sexism is to blame
Totes, it totes is.
GI Jane wasn’t a documentary?
She didn’t even start BUDs. she dropped out of the officer Indoc. its basically an orientation of how things are going to work over the next 6 months. She didn’t spend a single day in actual training.
“If You Are Married to a Trump Supporter, Divorce Them”
http://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/politics/a11664976/divorce-trump-supporters/
but give up any claim to any of their stuff first, if the law allows that
Nice. Way to compromise. These people have no chill, none whatsoever.
So there were 200 white supremacist protesters yesterday. 200!
The way the media’s been carrying it out you’d think there were several thousand.
Reminds me of when I was a kid and the Aryan Nations would have their annual “parade” in Sandpoint Idaho. The national news media would cover it. It was literally 2 dozen or fewer people, with counter-demonstrators numbering in the hundreds. And yet without fail, every year it was like a brand new experience.
The media has been conflating the Neo-Nazis with the “Stop being Stalinist History Erasers” protest. This is of course deliberate.
Thats a good point
I don’t think there is any good way to count them.
And half were Fed undercovers.
reminder:
“Why Women Had Better Sex Under Socialism
Although East European Communist states needed women’s labor to realize their programs for rapid industrialization after World War II, the ideological foundation for women’s equality with men was laid by August Bebel and Friedrich Engels in the 19th century. After the Bolshevik takeover, Vladimir Lenin and Aleksandra Kollontai enabled a sexual revolution in the early years of the Soviet Union, with Kollontai arguing that love should be freed from economic considerations.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/opinion/why-women-had-better-sex-under-socialism.html
yeah that is a load of bullshit. I wonder how much Kristen R. Ghodsee lived under communism. Although I admit that there being no heat in the concrete apartment blocks during the cold eastern European winters, there may have been more incentive to cuddle. Although the no hot water and to cold to bathe meant it may have gotten smelly.
When Americans think of Communism in Eastern Europe, they imagine travel restrictions, bleak landscapes of gray concrete, miserable men and women languishing in long lines to shop in empty markets and security services snooping on the private lives of citizens. While much of this was true, our collective stereotype of Communist life does not tell the whole story.
No it was worse.
Yep. And people kept fucking anyway. What a shocker.
Just imagine how hot slave sex must have been!
“yeah! now tell me what the top marginal tax rate is! oh baby! when is our curfew?”\
hot stuff.
Ugh. I see some commie derps on derpbook promising that once the revolution commences people will be allowed to keep their personal property, just not private property. I wonder if my seed falls under the former or the latter
*opens mouth, closes it*
They really make a fine hair distinction. As in toothbrush vs house. The former is personal the latter private. Idiots
Totally worth the gulags
I’m sure the women raped and murdered by Beria over two decades while still being employed by the Soviet government with the entire Politboro being aware of his proclivities would agree.
That wasn’t real Socialism, though
love should be freed from economic considerations
“I will gladly pay you Tuesday, for a
hamburgerblowjob today.”Alex Jones launched a new news site:
https://newswars.com/
I like how their slogan keeps changing.
will they also have supplements? my male vitality seems a bit low recently.
Distilled rainwater and pure-grain alcohol for purchase by the case.
+1 essence
I stopped paying attention to politics for a couple of weeks but came across the news coverage of this commie vs nazi thing yesterday.
From the coverage, I thought Trump was at the riot leading the nazis, but then I read his statement and continued following the coverage, and I feel like I’m a different species from these people on tv bashing Trump. I literally just heard someone on Fox say that what Trump didn’t say is more disturbing than the violence that took place.
People have lost their damn minds
They really have.
Yup.
You can’t trust anything anyone tells you (regardless of how mainstream the outlet- in fact that may be a bigger indication they are at a minimum misleading you, if not outright lying). I will only believe what my own eyes tell me these days.
Response form my proggy acquaintances:
“Who are you going to believe, me, or your lying eyes?”
My eyes, they aren’t trying to push socialism.
This has all been very valuable to me. Before I always assumed the news was just biased due to their own beliefs seeping in. Simply the inherent result of a human being seeing something and placing it in the context of their experiences and worldview. Now it is clear they will go to any lengths to distort reality to match their preferred version of events and turn Americans against each other.
The various YouTube prognosticators and newsies do a far better job than the old guard media. It’s best to avoid Fox, CNN, et al like the plague.
I am wary of them as well, but I have to admit I like some of their work. This can be more dangerous, if I am reacting only to confirmation bias though.
Youtubers have been FAR FAR more responsible and calm than the legacy old guard media.
It’s no contest in my view.
Depends who you watch.
I don’t think The Young Turks is particularly reliable for example.
They are a reliable source of deep though.
derp*
TYT is barely a youtube news sources, they’re basically agitprop for the Qatari government.
TYT are retards.
Hmm…that’s just what I’d expect a Nazi to say.
Just cleaned some overhead lights I thought were bronze-colored.
Turns out they are stainless steel.
So those weren’t stains?
😛
Just a nice thick layer of cigarette smoke residue. Now it looks shiny.
They aren’t valuable without the patina!
You could have stopped there and still been correct.
I don’t much about the white supremacist/neonazi/etc. outfits in the U. S. I’ve met with one group which tolerates racists in their ranks – the Sons of Confederate Veterans – and I don’t know if they had anything to do with the statue rally – but their members tend to have jobs and it wouldn’t be in their interest to stir up violence. I’m guessing that any white-supremacist violence was from groups or individuals with whom I’m unfamiliar.
On the left, I am aware of the tactic of “political offense, military defense” – or to speak more plainly, causing violent incidents, maybe even generating martyrs, and then blaming (a) the Klanracistnazis, and (b) the racist government for attacks on peaceful left-wingers.
Didn’t Antifa show up to try to stop a legal rally? They have a proven track record of initiating violence and being complete bastards. The odds are pretty good that they started all of this nonsense.
I wouldn’t be at all surprised if that’s the case – I’m just saying that technically I don’t know.
They enjoy confrontations with white nationalist types, because it makes them (antifas) look good, and they earn headlines like “anti-fascist demonstrator” killed at right-wing extremist rally.
I think some of them, at least, are yearning for an antifa version of Horst Wessel – a martyr.
I was watching the CBS morning show with the elaborate sun and Jane Pauley this morning, and their leadout segment was a SJW “journalist” femplaining about manspreading, manterrupting, and mansplaining in that condescending “sassy and strong” tone that feminists pull off so well (because all their man-whatever tripe is projection of their insecurities about their own obvious character defects).
I sometimes like that show for tending to stay away from politics and Kulturkampf. Oh well.
This is the most annoying one. I feel that in everyday conversation/at the office women will interrupt you far more often and take up a lot more time talking than men will (on average).
Women, on average, say 13,000 more words per day than men.
Ya’ll got a sauce?
The only thing I can find is a study of college students claiming they speak at about the same rate on average (with the typical higher spread in verbosity among men- i.e. they had both the most talkative and least talkative participant).
TW: daily fail
Per BBC article linked below:
” When Mark Liebermann, professor of linguistics at the University of Pennsylvania, questioned use of the figures, which appeared to be loosely based on related numbers in a self help book, Brizendine agreed with him and promised to remove them from future editions. Liebermann tried to trace the origin of the statistics further, he had little luck except for a similar claim in a 1993 marriage guidance pamphlet. Not quite the gold standard of scientific evidence.”
Perhaps I’m just parroting what I’ve heard…
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20131112-do-women-talk-more-than-men
It appears as though women do talk more, but not to the extent I said.
To be fair, if you exclude the word “like,” the difference loses any statistical significance.
I larfed
I think manspreading is the worst one. Idk about other guys, but it is extremely uncomfortable for me to sit with my knees touching for a significant period of time. My anatomy is different than female anatomy… I need some space between my knees.
Toxic anatomy.
This one doesn’t bother me as much because some guys really do take this too far (on the bus isn’t the right place to practice yoga). But yeah, I’m not about to put my knees together all day either.
I guess I don’t see it as a male thing (thinking about those girls that curl up on the seat and make you rub up against their nasty shoes)
Feminism has turned general public rudeness in to some sort of gender war.
I’ve never had an issue where seat hogging seemed worth worrying about. Certainly not one where I assumed the physical characteristics the offender proved something about their gender.
The world needs to learn to get the fuck over things. Life is always comfortable and convenient.
We watched the Thatched Roof segment,engaged in a pleasant discussion about the use of thatch around the world, then the “next-up” announcement about mansplaining and a mad dash for the remote. Totally ruined the nerd-buzz.
“Progressives are building outside of the Democratic Party to win in 2018”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/progressives-are-building-outside-of-the-democratic-party-to-win-in-2018/2017/08/12/689ec374-7ed1-11e7-83c7-5bd5460f0d7e_story.html
Punch nazis moar harder!
I showed this late last night, but it’s hilarious when newspapers like WaPo posture and pretend to take the moral high ground, then five seconds later glorify “Punch More Nazis” to rally the troops for next year. It really does show that hate comes from “many sides”.
Re: Charlottesville.
Can’t add that much to my illustrious Glibs’ already stellar commentary, but the way I look at it is thus:
When your philosophy hinges on “Punch Somebody” don’t be surprised when “Somebody” punches back. Life isn’t a college campus. Wrongthinkers out in the real world don’t just become supine and submit to your superiority when you attack and shame them like they do back in your comfortable little Commie bubbles.
Nazis, pffft. These failures have been around forever ranting and raving about the return of the Third Reich. The rest of the country has ignored them and gone about their business. Along comes antifa and becomes their biggest recruiting tool. At the end of the day, I’d be happy to see them both lose. This is scumbag on scumbag conflict. Sad someone died, but it’s been ramping up to this for months and was unfortunately inevitable. Someone getting killed was either going to finally de-escalate or spiral things even more out of control and based on the reactions for the dramatis personae I can see the spiraling happening already. More bodies to come. Oh well.
The media is playing their part well; though it’s hard for me to believe they wield any influence over persuadable people anymore. I think the only ones taking CNN seriously are true believers that blame the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics on Trump so their histrionics are sound and fury signifying insanity. Watching the Hollywood Left react has been the most entertaining part of this; better to remain silent and be thought a fool etc. etc.
Indeed. This martyr they have now will ramp up Antifa recruiting which will spur the altrighters to do the same. My mayor just announced the removal of CSA statues from our old courthouse and now I fear what would have been a bump in my commute will turn into a whole thing.
It was inevitable and it’s kind of hard for me to get too worked up about it.
I just took the time to read the Google memo in its entirety… What the hell was the outrage about? It was extremely mild and well sourced. The guy hit the nail on the head, and the resultant furor is the proof.
“It was extremely mild and well sourced”
That’s the problem. He is so reasonable, he might even persuade someone to his argument and that, comrade, we cannot abide.
At least they proved they’re open-minded by firing him.
Yes. The more reasonable someone is, the more hateful and hysterical they become.
If you’re *actually* a firebreathing racict/misogynist/yadda-yadda then all they do is shrug and go, “see? we told you”
Any explanation of differences in outcome that doesn’t rely solely on sexism or racism is clearly sexist or racist.
Indeed. The media is lying their fucking asses off by describing it as “anti-diversity” and “misogynist”.
The media is lying their fucking asses
off by describing it as “anti-diversity” and “misogynist”.What a jerk.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_K._Vardaman
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James Kimble Vardaman (July 26, 1861 – June 25, 1930) was an American politician from the U.S. state of Mississippi and was the Governor of Mississippi from 1904 to 1908. A Democrat, Vardaman was elected in 1912 to the United States Senate in the first popular vote for the office, following adoption of the 17th Amendment. He defeated incumbent LeRoy Percy, a member of the planter elite. Vardaman served from 1913 to 1919.
Known as “The Great White Chief”, Vardaman had gained electoral support for his advocacy of populism and white supremacy, saying: “If it is necessary every Negro in the state will be lynched; it will be done to maintain white supremacy.”[1] He appealed to the poorer whites, yeomen farmers and factory workers.
…
Referring to the 1890 Mississippi state constitution, Vardaman said:
There is no use to equivocate or lie about the matter. … Mississippi’s constitutional convention of 1890 was held for no other purpose than to eliminate the nigger from politics. Not the ‘ignorant and vicious’, as some of the apologists would have you believe, but the nigger. … Let the world know it just as it is. … In Mississippi we have in our constitution legislated against the racial peculiarities of the Negro. … When that device fails, we will resort to something else.[3]
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I can see wanting to take this guy’s name off buildings, although I think would be more instructive to add an explanatory marker.
Google indicates that Ole Miss had a Vardaman building…that’s apparently not going to last long.
Wrong kind of Democrat, you see: segregationist statists are so very different from race-baiting prog plantation statists.
Ah, well don’t forget that’s before the racists and the anti-racists switched parties.
Didn’t almost every single racist icon except Strom Thurmond die a Democrat? I also don’t think that a lot of Southern legislatures became Republican until about 10-15 years ago. In fact, I believe Kentucky was Democrat until only late last year.
Probably. But don’t let that interfere with the narrative!
Republicans r racists – RRR. Which is only 7 letters away from KKK. Also Plessy v. Ferguson was decided 7-1 & Dredd Scott v. Sandford at 7-2, so clearly 7 is a racist number. 7 x 7 x 7 + 7 +7 = 357. Aha! Proof of the violence inherent in the racist Republicans.
Was that before or after FDR put Japanese people in concentration camps? Because I know the lefties disavow any connection with the pro-segregation Democrats of the ’60s, but they still praise FDR as a hero who ended the Great Depression.
George Stephanopoulos is a prissy annoying douchebag.
That is all.
Stop the presses.
He took a beating in this interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdkf2ySoFc8
He should have defined racism as “the oppression of marginalized BIPOCs and Native Americans,” and then that smart-alec interviewer wouldn’t have been able to apply his definition to affirmative action.
Stephanopoulos glazes his eyes over and doesn’t ask any follow-up questions whenever a guest is making a point he doesn’t agree with or that doesn’t fit within his narrative.
Once the guest quits speaking he just asks an unrelated question that’s back on his attack angle and acts as if the guest hadn’t just said anything at all.
Paul Joseph Watson announced that he’s quitting YouTube. I call dibs on the map.
He’s been saying that for a while.
Thicc Sunday?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4786136/Demi-Rose-displays-posterior-NAKED-beach-shoot.html
Thus presenting a target to orbiting satellites.
Red beans and rice didn’t miss her.
I love how the DM has so much popover crap, it covers their own content and layout. Morons.
Also a moron.
She could just say no thanks.
I was thinking Bieber as the moron.
Oh no doubt he’s a moron. I’m just saying she could just say not interested and leave it at that.
Hot
‘MURRICA!
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Hell Yes!
Mercy
#42 is a lie.
But then so are bras generally, so they’re all lies.
The winner today is number 2.
But I stood for all their anthems, IYKWIM.
Would all
He looks like a moron
https://www.buzzfeed.com/claudiakoerner/what-we-know-about-james-alex-fields-charlottesville-crash?utm_term=.ya9aYLzdO#.mm36klRBr
Intersectionality means let’s get those white, straight devils.
“because all of the woke people are being oppressed by the white, male, Christian, cisgender heterosexual patriarchy in one way or another.”
http://hotair.com/archives/2017/08/12/ellison-must-embrace-intersectionality/
“once you’ve accepted that everything is racist, consistency demands that you also accept everything is sexist, everything is transphobic, everything is Islamophobic, and so on and so forth. Think of it as the grand unified theory of victimhood.”
Correct. Anyone who doesn’t realize that these groups pushing “intersectionality” (and by extension the various “X” Studies departments at universities around the country) are pushing an anti-white, anti-male agenda haven’t been paying attention.
We just saw an ID show about these guys not that long ago. I don’t know how this guy was ever eligible for parole.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/12/member-cannibalistic-chicago-ripper-crew-to-be-released-in-september.html
Thanks, JB. Just perfect reading before bed.
I’m sure you’re safe:)
You shouldn’t be going to bed at 1PM. 😀
The whole freakout over the car attack has been somewhat telling. There is obviously the fact that it’s the most major attack at an event yet, but the potential for it to have been a white nationalist attack has thrown it into the media circles. Meanwhile, we’ve had months of antifa violence. We’ve had them openly organizing and planning assaults. We’ve had them training in better methods to harm others. And we’ve seen that they have an international presence through the events in Germany.
Somehow, if antifa was a white nationalist group rather than a socialist one, I believe the response would have already been more extreme. Regardless of whom from which group drove a car into the crowd, antifa should have been classified as a terrorist group already. And if some white nationalist group(s) engage in and plan violence openly online than they should obviously be classified as such as well.
The Democrats are effectively distancing themselves while letting antifa act as a pack of extremist useful idiots to go after their opposition. It’s almost like they have a paramilitary wing now, but one they can’t be held accountable for. This has been going on for months and of course we have little action beyond ‘condemning violence’.
But what we really should be focused on is bellowing about how Trump didn’t condemn white nationalists enough, because that’s not a shitty attempt at a smear while a massive bloody problem is staring you in the face.
That’s pretty much it. And all the while, they insinuate that every single white nationalist group is directly linked to the Trump administration.
The only link to the Trump administration is with antifa. They are the ones who decided to act like toddlers and throw tantrums and attack people win he won.
I think it was probably two days ago that I was just talking about how antifa has bitten off more than they can chew. If they are allowed to continue assaulting people with impunity they’ll be more repercussions like this. This is a direct result to the actions of the left including antifa and those wanting to erase southern history.
Is not like that was even a difficult prediction. I certainly condemn the actions of this nazi asshole and am in no way justifying it but what do they think is going to happen when you keep poking a pit bull with a sharp stick?
Obviously, the bull will see the error of his ways, and spend the rest of his life apologizing for who he is, up to and including gratefully funding reparations to all the beings whose ancestors were oppressed by the bull’s forefathers.
As a trueborn Southron, I consider “Southern History” to have already been erased. When people waving “Confederate flags” are against Free Trade ( just like Abraham Lincoln was), the Cause is truly Lost.
Good point. I still think taking down General Lee’s statue is less about anti-slavery and more about bullying people they don’t like because they can.
No doubt; and I disagree with people who call him a “traitor”, since such an appellation depends on the idea that the FedGov owned his allegiance regardless of its actions. But, where I might once have felt agitation about the act of removing statues of Confederate generals, I now feel apathy. General Lee was defending his homeland against a power-grabbing, Constitution-destroying central government. People protesting the removal of his statue seem completely fine with power-grabbing, Constitution-destroying government, as long as they are in control of said government.
Who is the idiotic designer who thought making giant sized text with shitty tablet layout on a desktop was a good thing? Guy needs to be taken out back and beaten with a Trinitron monitor until he realizes what a fuckup that is.
Which site?
Marriott. They’ve
updatedscrewed up their site.From the Buzzfeed (sigh) profile of the C-ville car-killer
“But he was such a good boy”, mom says:
Seriously? “Some of Trump’s best friends are black”?
Anyway, it has come,out in the press that the Death Driver has a plethora of racist/Nazi memes and pics on his Facebook page.
It would not surprise me at all if it all was fake–that he is secretly anti-fa, and set up the FB page to look like a racist before running over a crowd of his fellow anti-fas. It’s an old Gestapo trick: shoot one of your own, to prove you’re not one of them.
Now, where did I put that roll of tinfoil?
I think she meant that her son had black friends.
I assume racist-mom was talking about her racist child because why would she even note that point unless she hated black people?
She is the kind of person who asks, “Now, which one are you, again?”
I think she noted it to point out that she didn’t know he was a white supremist but who knows.
RIP Martin Landau
Nice — I was about to point that out as well.
Glad to know someone else can quote North by Northwest word for word.
I still think taking down General Lee’s statue is less about anti-slavery and more about bullying people they don’t like because they can.
It’s about making people unpersons.
And then, when the pissed-off newly “unpersoned” rabble react , the progressive/academic/media arbiters of taste and decorum gaze down from their ivory battlements in po’faced astonishment.
“The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.”
― George Orwell